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Most Comfortable Plane For Long Flights

Wed Nov 17, 1999 5:37 pm

If you and someone you loved were going to take a long flight (say an international one) and you had a choice of a 767 a 777 a 747 or an airbus plane to fly on (sorry I dont know which ones fly long flights)

Which would be your choice if you had to fly coach?


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RE: Most Comfortable Plane For Long Flights

Wed Nov 17, 1999 5:56 pm

All three of those boeing planes are comfortable as well as the airbuses.
The 747 gives you more room to move around the cabin for walks, but there are more people do deal with. And one might get to feeling like cattle, being hurded together, or being trapped in the sterige (can't spell) section of an old ship.
The 767 is nice with its 2-3-2 configuration, but it's a smaller aircraft.
I have not flown on the 777, but I would assume it would be like a 767 with more room

I think as long as you don't have the DREADED middle seat on the DC-10 or L1011, then you should be ok. Most carriers are getting rid of those (if they have not already done so), so it's not that much of a concern anymore.
If I had the choice, I would fly the 777 in coach. Partially for the experience, and to not feel too cramped.

Thats my 2 cents
 
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RE: Most Comfortable Plane For Long Flights

Wed Nov 17, 1999 11:28 pm

I absolutely loved the Airbus A340 on a recent Lufthansa flight. Very comfortable -- and even large restrooms.

All 3 Boeings are dynamite as well. Haven't flown the A330, though.
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RE: Most Comfortable Plane For Long Flights

Wed Nov 17, 1999 11:35 pm

None of the aircraft mentioned above are in the least comfotable to travel on long haul flights in coach. They are designed to pack as many fare payers into the available space as possible. Comfort here might be re-defined as least uncomfortable.
 
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RE: Most Comfortable Plane For Long Flights

Thu Nov 18, 1999 12:08 am

If I had a choice I would choose the a340 or the 777. As long as I don't get stuck in the middle of any aircraft.
 
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RE: Most Comfortable Plane For Long Flights

Thu Nov 18, 1999 12:32 am

Well, I think the layout of the aircraft depends on the airline using it. Given my past experiences, I'd choose either British Airways, Air France or (GASP!) Aeroflot for a long international flight. Each of these airlines had comfortable seats with good support and legroom, as well as attentive and helpful cabin staff. As to the aircraft...well, my vote so far would go to the 747-400 or 767-300ER, but that again is based on the airlines I flew with.

Is there ANY aircraft for which the layout used by all airlines is common?
 
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RE: Most Comfortable Plane For Long Flights

Thu Nov 18, 1999 4:37 am

The A340 is the best plane I've ever been on, short or long distance. It's comfty, quiet, not as huge as 747, not as cramped as 767. I've never been on a 777 though...
 
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RE: Most Comfortable Plane For Long Flights

Thu Nov 18, 1999 4:45 am

It really is down to the airline concerned, in that on a 777 you could have the likes of Emirates, which packs in ten abreast (I know it has seatback videos, but that's no substitute for sleep) or another airlines that does 2-5-2. Then, on the 767, you have ANZ which must have the most comfortable pitch - 34" (compared with 30" on some airlines.)

So, regardless of what aircraft type you choose, you want an airline that offers :-
- 33-34" pitch, with decent recline
- decent width (767/Airbus/777 nine abreast)
- seatback videos

Anyone know of an airline that offers all of these?
 
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RE: Most Comfortable Plane For Long Flights

Thu Nov 18, 1999 11:24 am

I am sorry, but British Airways economy class on B747-200 was not comfortable.

 
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747 Over A340

Thu Nov 18, 1999 11:31 am

I felt very claustrophobic on the A340, flying from Japan to Europe, because there are no places to "hang out" other than the passenger seats. The 747, however, has little areas around the exits and galleys where passengers can stand and stretch.
 
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RE: Most Comfortable Plane For Long Flights

Thu Nov 18, 1999 11:35 am

Well,I prefer the Boeings over the Airbuses as the Airbuses are quite cramped and there is no room for passengers to stretch.But my personal favorites are the 747-400 and 777-300.They are both very quiet,quite easy to sleep in them.
 
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Kaitak

Thu Nov 18, 1999 1:32 pm

On all UAL's 767-300ERs, they have 9 channels of video plus airshow, seats with wings and 32"-33" of pitch.
UAL 777s are the same thing, except with the widest seats, and UAL 747s can have from 32"-34" of pitch, with I believe the 2nd widest seats.
I would choose a UAL 747-400 of course.
Pretty close...
As a sidenote, you say that the "decent width" airplanes are the 767, Airbus, and 777. What about the 747 -- I thought that had the second most width after the 777?
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United's Long Haul Fleet

Thu Nov 18, 1999 2:02 pm

On all UAL's 767-300ERs, they have 9 channels of video plus airshow, seats with wings and 32"-33" of pitch.
correct

UAL 777s are the same thing, except with the widest seats,
more then half of the united 777's dont have tv's in first and business let alone coach.

and UAL 747s can have from 32"-34" of pitch, with I believe the 2nd widest seats.

no video in coach

I would choose a UAL 747-400 of course.
Pretty close...
As a sidenote, you say that the "decent width" airplanes are the 767, Airbus, and 777. What about the 747 -- I thought that had the second most width after the 777?



I have been on uniteds 777-igw with personal tvs and without. I have also been the 767-300 with tvs and the 747-400 with tvs in first and business. However I have not been in coach on these planes so i dont really know about the legroom issue. I know that in business class the 767 has smaller seats and smaller isles, which isnt the best and is a good plane to sit on. the 777 is terrible in buisness class because half of the seats dont have tv's. They are very noisy too. And the 3 abreast in business is terrible. On the 747-400 i have only sat up stairs in business class. The seats were wider than those on the 777 yet they almost seemed to wide. the legroom wasn't as good as on the 777. but their were tv's. Also their overhead bins and side bins don't hold much. If you want to sleep the best place to sit is on the second floor. If the flight attendents love to talk to the pilots (*this has happened on alot of my flights) then it can be noisy with them walking in and out of the cockpit. I would choose the 767-300. Most flight attendents would choose the 767-300 too. besides the crew rest seats on the 767-300 have tv's footrests and alot of legroom, while the 777 are just regular coach seats in the coach cabin.
 
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RE: Most Comfortable Plane For Long Flights

Thu Nov 18, 1999 2:02 pm

As stated earlier, it is usually the airline that has the ultimate decision on the level of comfort a passenger will experience. From my own personal experiences, Sabena's A330's are very comfortable aircaft for transatlantic flight. The seats have a significantly better recline than most other airline seats I have flown on, but are as wide as a regular aircraft seats. Delta's MD-11 seat comfort has something to be desired. The seats were the exact same seats one could find on a Delta 727 aircaft. Delta's 767 and L-10-11 aircraft are spacious aircraft. In my opinion it's always a pleasure to get to fly in an L-10-11. I know it isn't much, but I hope it helps in your quest for the perfect seat.
 
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UA 767-300ER

Thu Nov 18, 1999 5:37 pm

Hi. I enjoyed the United 767-300ER the best, for a long range aircraft. I took one from JFK-SFO, and was upgraded to Business, Connosieur Class. The best flight I have ever been on. Premium service from more flight attendants than you would have in coach. Also, personal video screens that fold up at every Business Seat is an added bonus.

On the way back, I was stuck in coach, but it wasn't so bad. I was surprised at the Video Screens even in every Coach seats. You could even watch yourself on the map crossing the country.

Then I hopped on a 767-200 a week later. Business Class from JFK-SFO, it was a terrible seat. No TV screen, older style of seat, but still exceptional service. Then hopped on an old (retired) 747-100. I was put upstairs, but that was horrible. Old seats, no individual tv screens, few windows, so I was re-seated downstairs. A bit better, but still bad First Class seats. Then the last was a 777 Business Class ORD-IAD. A nice seat, but no TV screens? What gives?

The best seat was the 767-300ER in Business, Coach is also a winner. If you have a choice between 762 and 763, take the 763, at least if you're flying United.
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Aspen1

Fri Nov 19, 1999 11:44 am

Correction -- United is installing ISV (DSV9 + Airshow) on all 744s at the same time they are retrofitting them with the First Suite.
Also, UA is installing new crew rest compartments on the 777 to replace the ones in coach.
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RE: Most Comfortable Plane For Long Flights

Fri Nov 19, 1999 11:47 am

B767-400ER or MD-11
 
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RE: Most Comfortable Plane For Long Flights

Fri Nov 19, 1999 12:59 pm

Ummm... I usually fly buissness class on international flights but AA buisness class on 767-300's on trans atlantic flights are a winner, coach, i really dont know, AA biz-class on trans-atlantic flights have lots of legroom, leg rests, foot rests and a lumbar support as well as a great width and pitch and recline, The FA's give you mini tv's that you can watch movies on, I was a little dissapointed because first-class had a lot of movies that i like that werent available in biz-class
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RE: Most Comfortable Plane For Long Flights

Sat Nov 20, 1999 5:55 am

The plane doesnt matter. As long as you sit near the emergency exits  
You'll have more than enough legroom!
 
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RE: Most Comfortable Plane For Long Flights

Sat Nov 20, 1999 10:38 pm

A340 A340 A340 A340 A340 A340 A340 A340 A340 A340.....flew on one (Air Canada) on the middle leg of a recent trip to England. It was only YVR-YYZ....but if only it had continued instead of the 767. What a great plane.

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