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Aviation History Topic

Sun Feb 23, 2003 11:54 pm

Hi Everyone!

I need some help from you guys  Innocent , the thing is the following...

I am thinking in writing my history assignment about something related to aviation. (It has to be around 6000 words  Sad )
Now, I don't really know what topic to talk about, should I choose 'The revolution of the 70s', and talk how the B747 and Concorde changed the way to travel... ie. faster, cheaper....OR .. 'the revolution of the economicly cheap Airbus'... Fly by wire, same cockpits, cheaper seats... OR 'The low cost airlines' Southwest and the way they changed they way to fly  Big grin

So, I need a general topic and some subtopics (what to talk about) ... if you guys can jot some ideas it will be fantastic  Big thumbs up

Thanks a lot for your contributions,  Laugh out loud
Regards from Argentina,
Matt Vivaldi
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RE: Aviation History Topic

Mon Feb 24, 2003 12:07 am

Heck, do what I once did with a history presentation on D-Day: Forget the limits. I think it took 1½ hours before I was done - it was supposed to be 15-20 minutes  Big thumbs up
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RE: Aviation History Topic

Mon Feb 24, 2003 12:22 am

How about the aviation revolution of the 1930s? That really was a decade where aviation changed forever. The introduction of all metal, retractable undercarriage monoplane airliners, fighters and bombers brought about a quantum leap in capability. If you want to concentrate on the civil/airliner side, there is plenty of scope - the Northrop Alpha, Boeing 247 and Douglas DC-1/2/3 series springs to mind straight away.

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RE: Aviation History Topic

Mon Feb 24, 2003 12:29 am

How about the jet age? With the start of service from the Comet, 707 and DC-8 amongst others of that period and how air travel was revolutionized that way.
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RE: Aviation History Topic

Mon Feb 24, 2003 12:32 am

You could also talk about the causes of failure of the major airlines that have gone under - overexpansion on borrowed money, failure to control labor issues, PanAm's selling off it's "crown jewel" assets one at a time while trying to compete with the lowest fare market across the Atlantic ..
Respectfully - the Divo
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RE: Aviation History Topic

Mon Feb 24, 2003 2:14 am


Trident, HlywdCatft, Drdivo Thanks for your rapid-replies!

My work has to be consise, with precise facts, I cant make too much 'in my opinion...' (unfortunetly  Sad ). I've got lots of info on Southwest's history, ive also got lots of info about the B747 and Concorde, I can choose the late 60s and early 70s era

maybe ill give that a go...

-What can be a good title for it?
-What subtopics can I put? (Maybe...The Supersonic Jet, the B747, The low cost airlines, and the start of economical aircraft Airbus...)

Again thanks for your help!  Big thumbs up
Matt Vivaldi.

[Edited 2003-02-23 18:17:34]
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RE: Aviation History Topic

Mon Feb 24, 2003 3:55 am

>>>So, I need a general topic and some subtopics (what to talk about) ...

A timely and topical subject would be not just SWA, but how low-cost carriers (LCCs) have spread throughout the industry at large. Almost without exception, sucessful LCCs have been standalone entities. Even before 9/11, the major network carriers in the U.S. were hurting, as business travelers became increasinly unhappy at subsidizing lower-cost fares for leisure travelers via the business travelers paying exorbitant "walk-up" fares, and the time since 9/11 has only exacerbated that trend. Now, with 2 major US "high-cost" carriers in Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings, existing U.S. network carriers are looking (some, for a second time) at LCC entities within the larger airline. Some airlines have tried internal LCCs before, only to have them fail outright, or perform below expectations.

United (LCC Shuttle by United, and now a new one, code-named "Starfish")

US Airways (LCC Metrojet, failed)

Delta (LCC Delta Express, new LCC "Song" starts April 15)

Continental (LCCs "Continental West" and "CAL Lite", both failed)

American (No LCC as yet, under evaluation now)

Northwest (No LCC yet, ??)

That's all here in the USA, and the same thing can be seen elsewhere with Easyjet, Go!, Westjet, Jazz, Tango, and any others I've forgotten, and their traditional network carriers in the various countries involved.

One of the main reasons for SWA's success is that it started in the USA's pre-deregulation era (pre-1978) as an INTRAstate airline (all within Texas) and was not regulated by the U. S. Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB), but a Texas state agency. As such, it learned early-on, in its formative years, to be "lean-and-mean" and otherwise to do more with less. When SWA lost money in its first couple of years, it sold 1 aircraft (of its 4) to provide funds, and went on to run the 4-aircraft schedule with only 3 aircraft. They did it by shortening ground times to only :10, and made it work.

While the 10-minute turns have since given way to longer ground times (now a minimum :20), that same sense of resourcefulness remains, and has always been fundamental to them, and not something they had to "learn" later.

Hope this helps...
ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
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RE: Aviation History Topic

Mon Feb 24, 2003 6:06 am

Thanks OPNLguy, indeed it helps!  Big thumbs up
Now the thing is... from where can I get info?
I've got some books, such as
-FLIGHT 100 years of aviation
-Modern commercial aircraft
-Modern Boeing Jetliners
-Giant Jetliners
-(from a friend) Nuts!: Southwest Airlines' Crazy Recipe for Business and Personal Success
and some others...
And some links like: or  Wink/being sarcastic

Any other books or good sites where I can get info?

Thanks everybody,
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RE: Aviation History Topic

Mon Feb 24, 2003 6:31 am

Here are some resources if you wanted to write a paper on deregulation.
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RE: Aviation History Topic

Tue Feb 25, 2003 8:34 am

Two Names, Charles lindbergh and Chuck yeager...and many others like Clement Ader ,they made the aviation history ! Big grin


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