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Actual Pitch Measurments Of "suite Seats"

Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:32 pm

Just wanted to see if there was anyone out there that knew the actual pitch measurements for the first class "suite seats" that are used by United, British Airways, Singapore, etc. I know they advertise that they fold out to 6'6", but I wanted to know what the actual pitch was.

I like to "dink" around with my own seating arrangements for a "fantasy airline", but haven't been able to figure out aircraft other than widebodies. Thanks.

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RE: Actual Pitch Measurements Of "suite Seats"

Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:44 pm

Off the top of my head, I believe UA was touting an 88" pitch for their suites, the others I don't know.

FYI, on all the Airbus aircraft and on Boeing narrowbodies, two windows = 38" (standard F class pitch), while for the 767 and 777 I believe two windows = 42" (possibly 41"). Often it's possible to get a feel for a given airline's pitch by using this as a reference when looking at interior pics.
 
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RE: Actual Pitch Measurments Of "suite Seats"

Wed Feb 26, 2003 12:02 am

Good numbers to remember--each Airbus window is 21.3", each Boeing narrowbody is 19.5". If you put the Suites in the herringbone fashion, it is 7 windows for two rows, 10 for three, and so on.

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RE: Actual Pitch Measurments Of "suite Seats"

Wed Feb 26, 2003 1:25 am

If each Airbus window is 21.3", then two windows = 42.6" (duh) and then I stand corrected ..... their window spacing is more akin to the 767/777. Looks like I'll have to revise my thinking when I play amateur designer.
 
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RE: Actual Pitch Measurments Of "suite Seats"

Wed Feb 26, 2003 2:23 am

I assume when you guys are reffering to the windows being xx.x inches apart that it is just like the seat pitch. The back of one window to the back of the next window, correct?
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RE: Actual Pitch Measurments Of "suite Seats"

Wed Feb 26, 2003 3:11 am

Boeing nut, yes, we mean center to center, or back-to-back, same distance. It just means the distance from a given point on one window to the same point on the neighbouring one. So yes, it is a similar idea to the seat pitch.
 
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RE: Actual Pitch Measurments Of "suite Seats"

Wed Feb 26, 2003 3:29 am

CF-CPI,

Thanks for the info, much appreciated. I was wondering because I was curious how many of these sleeper seats would have fit on United's older premium tri-class seating arrangement when they had 36 sleeper seats. Or even possibly an entire 744 with these seats. I was also curious how many could go on a narrowbody.

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RE: Actual Pitch Measurments Of "suite Seats"

Wed Feb 26, 2003 6:36 am

On the old "OO" configuration of the 747-400 in United's fleet, there were two different configurations for the 36 FC cabin--18 seats, galley, and 18 more seats, as well as a straight 36 seats with the galley behind. The plan was to revert to the latter configuration with the Suites, installing 26 in the herringbone pattern until about 1/2 way between doors 1 and 2.

As for narrowbodies, if you want the herringbone pattern, and also taking into consideration room for galleys, crew rest facilities, closets, and lavs sufficient for long-haul flights, a 737-700 would be able to be equipped with 24 suites, two abreast. A 757 would have 40.

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RE: Actual Pitch Measurments Of "suite Seats"

Wed Feb 26, 2003 7:26 am

FLY777UAL,

Oh thanks a lot man!! You took all the fun out of it for me!!  Laugh out loud Actually, thanks a lot for that info. By the way, would you happen to know what the pitch would be in the herringbone pattern for the narrow bodies?

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RE: Actual Pitch Measurements Of "suite Seats"

Wed Feb 26, 2003 8:10 am

Makes one wonder if all-suite 737s or 757s would be a viable entity transatlantic. I had the impression that a good fraction of transatlantic pax actually pay for premium class -if not F then certainly C.
 
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RE: Actual Pitch Measurments Of "suite Seats"

Wed Feb 26, 2003 8:20 am

My thoughts as well. My vision would be of a fleet of BBJ's and "BBJ3"s. (752LR) with the configurations mentioned by FLY777UAL's last post. But I'd still like to figure out arrangements for other aircraft as well.

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