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Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:03 am


Summer I am going to Uk for the first time from Barbados. My options are as follows:
British Airways: Boeing 777-200 LGW
BWIA West Indies Airways: Airbus 340 - 300 LHR
Virgin Atlantic: Boeing 747- 400 : LGW


Since I like the 777 so much I really want to go on it and thus BA has high ratings. However since I like BWIA I really want to see what they LHR service is like and I have heard that it has improved with the introduction of the 340. Flying on the 747 will be a dream but my aunt who went to Uk on VS found it bad compared to BA. When my cuz came home from UK for christmas on a BA she said that it was so much better than VS.


Your comments.
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:12 am

The prudent thing to do is fly the airline with the lowest airfare.
 
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:18 am

I'd opt for the 777 on BA, personally.

Whichever way you choose, be sure you have the Bajan Flying Fish once you're in Barbados, though!  Love
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:23 am

EA CO AS: According to his profile, he lives in Barbados, and is traveling to the UK. Just clearing that up.

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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:25 am

Hmmm...tough decision. British Airways probably has the best service out of the three, but flying the 744 is a real treat...although I've heard mixed reviews of Virgin Atlantic. Dont get me wrong though, the A340 is my favorite widebody aircraft. So...like the previous person said, just fly on the lowest fare airline.

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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:26 am

It's all about the triple 7, baby!
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:36 am


Yes Barbados is nice but I have always wanted to go to the UK.

So going out of the UK to JFK which airline would be best at economy, If I go BA I really dont want to get stuck on another 777 but who flies 340s to JFK from the UK.

In my family I have carried planning a trip to a new level as I look at the type of aircraft we are going to be on.
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 11:01 am

I will op for the Boeing 777 too , flying the 777 last year , it was an amazing experience . I got to flew the A330 and a340 for 10 hrs flight and I find the A330 a much quieter and more comfy plane then the A340 . The 777 has a very spacious cabin but I find it cramp especially on a full flight , but if you ask me to choose which one ? Go for the B777 ride .
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 11:16 am

Virgin uses A340s from JFK.
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 11:57 am

I have flown on all three also,and if price is reasonably close I would go with the 777!
 
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 1:43 pm

I've never flown on any of them, and I'd go on the 747 because I've never been on one.

But if I were you I'd try BWIA and the A340
 
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 1:51 pm

Isn't the 340 just reaching cruise alt at 8 hrs?

I've seen that LH POS clawing at the air several times departing PHX.
 
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:15 pm

That's not really a fair comparison. I bet BA's 777 struggles quite a bit to get off the ground at PHX as well.

PHX, DEN and LAS are notorious for giving any aircraft but really the 757 a hard time.

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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:26 pm

"I've seen that LH POS clawing at the air several times departing PHX".

Have you ever heard of flex-power take-offs?
 
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 3:25 pm

You don't do flex powered takeoffs in PHX, especially during the summer. I'm currently taking flight training at an airport 15 nm north of PHX. Performance or lack there of in this region can really hurt during the summer. At certain temperatures, PHX just shuts down because no one is going anywhere.

As for BA and the 777-200ER in PHX, she does just fine. One interesting thing is that it seems BA operates only RR powered 777s into Phoenix. I did a quick search of the flights operating into PHX and couldn't find one GE powered aircraft. A tip of the cap to the fire breathing brit hung on a Boeing! If you can operate into PHX year round with narry a problem then your first class in my book!

As a side note, I was fortunate to see G-YMMF at Phoenix Sky Harbor last week. It was definately a view as it was from 3,500ft above the airport during a class B transition. She stood out as everything else around her was a narrowbody!

LH and the A340 is another story. The aircraft does not have the same capabilities in the thrust department and therefore waddles into thin air at Sky Harbor. Let's face it folks, the A340-300 can be hit in flight at cruising altitude by a sparrow. The A340-500/600 though have corrected this problem or so they say. Hopefully LH will operate the A340-600 into PHX someday and we can see how she does!

All that being said, the 757 puts everything to shame. HP's 757s should be retired to the airplane hall of fame as they have been going in and out of PHX and LAS for many years without the slightest problem.
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 3:26 pm

I apologize as I did not answer the original question.

I would go for the Virgin Atlantic flight. I have flown both BA and VS. VS though wins out in my book. You can't go wrong with either though. As for the equipment, VS operates very new 747-400s on the route.
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 4:11 pm

You did not say which cabin you intend to travel in?

Assuming economy:

BA is reconfiguring its 777 "worldtraveler" (economy or cattle class) to 10 across 3,4,3, with a 30 to 31 inch pitch (ouch.) BA has done a great job at cramming more seats through out the coach cabin of their aircraft.Disquising it as a "class," shame on them. (Why don't they just strap their economy customers to the aluminum tubing and be done with it?) They roll out cans of tuna once in the air, don't forget to share the can opener. You'll take turns with the water bottle, best to BYOB. There are no warm beverages by the time they get to seat " 98 Z." Though the back cabin on most airlines is most forgettable, you'll remember how uncomfortable your BA flight was! Skip them now, or skip them later.

Basically BA will not care if you fly them or fly a competitor, they don't have too. For best comfort and sanitation, remember to wear an adult incontinent pant... it gets pretty rank in the back ...you'll be fine. It is sad, what was once a great airline... the Worlds Favourite Airline... has fallen to high density "charter class."

The 777 cruise speed is higher then the A340, the 747-400 is fastest/highest.

Several off comments on VS lately? No recent experience. You just can not beat the 747 400 for a fun flight.

The BWIA A340 will score higher for economy comfort, 2,4,2, plus BWIA is local and I always like to support the local airline of destination (origin.) BWIA meal service is quite good, at least on their caribbean routes to N. America.

Next time price and try AA with a connection through MIA or JFK? You maybe surprised at the more room through out coach, plus economy on AA 777 (MIA LHR segment) is only 9 across 2,5,2 at a roomy 34 inch seat pitch. Good individual IFE too. Something Special in the Air.

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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Feb 27, 2003 4:19 pm

I'd say take the Virgin 744. I know you have heard mixed reactions about it, but I thought they were a great airline! They give you a bag of goodies when you get on board! They had a futuristic looking cabin, in my opinion, and the flight attendants were very attractive!!!

If you don't want VS, I say to take the 777. The reason being that I flew on an A340 once and I felt cramped in. Unlike the 744 or 777 which are so big that the interior walls are more square with the ceiling, the A340's walls were curved in quite a bit. In coach, I can stand up a little in a 744 or 777, but I can't stand up in an A340. So the curvature of the A340 makes it feel tight and cramped and I hated the A340 a TON! Not to mention its weak takeoff performance.

So I'd say 1) VS 744, 2) BA 777, 3) BWIA A340.
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Feb 28, 2003 1:24 am

I find it remarkable that BA is cramming more and more seats in economy. Maybe downsizing to the 777-200ER for more "High Yields" passengers wasn't the smartest decision? Go with Virgin. The service is great, the aircraft are new and you won't be cramped as it's a 747-400 with regular seating. The seat pitch might not be the largest though.
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Feb 28, 2003 1:33 am

Boeing Fan raises a good point, most of BA's flights to the Caribbean are actually an airline called Airline Management Limited (AML) who fly 777s in BA colours. Instead of the usual 9 abreast, it's 10 abreast and it's not popular. I'm not sure how important seat width is, Emirates fly their 777s with 10 abreast seating and they always win awards. Ditto Finnair with their 3-4-3 configuration on the MD11. You never hear complaints about either of these two. But BA's AML franchise is well-known and much disliked.

If Virgin and Beewee are options, I would forget BA's AML cattletrucks. Virgin have the best IFE, and Beewee's A340s with 8 abreast, 2-4-2 seating is the most comfortable. Have a good trip anyway.
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Feb 28, 2003 2:02 am

1. Virgin´s 744
2. BWIAs A340 (because its exotic)
3. BAs 777 (didn´t like a flight in them)
 
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Feb 28, 2003 2:18 am

I have heard of the BA 777s going ten-across in certain leisure markets, but are they doing it across the board, on all aircraft? If so, shame on them, and in that case I'd certainly take the BWIA A340.
 
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Feb 28, 2003 4:09 am

I've done both British Airways amd Virgin Atlantic flights from BGI and I have to say BA wins hands-down when it comes to service...the flight on VS was only okay but the food was worst than the usaul on airlines....but if its cheaper, then go for it. BA flights just feel more 'classier' and they do genuinely seem more concerned with the passengers. I cant assess BWIA to LHR, having never flown the service...yet.
 
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Feb 28, 2003 4:15 am

I've done the 777 four times, I would try the A340. Maybe do the 777 down and the A340 back up.
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Feb 28, 2003 4:20 am

No, BA aren't putting 3-4-3 in all their 777s. They're not cramming more seats into economy CF-CPI. BA DID have a few 777s (2?) configured 3-4-3 all economy for the Caribbean routes, they've been reconfigured or are being reconfigured.
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Feb 28, 2003 4:53 am

BoeingFan, I have never seen a bigger bunch of bollocks posted here!  Smile As a BA employee I have to respond!

For start, we have (in response to customer feedback) changed the former AML 777 routes back to 3-3-3 config. Secondly, I can only assume you have never flown BA to describe our cabin service that way. OK, sure we can get it wrong service wise, but "tuna cans,shared water bottles and incontinence pads" - c'mon CONSTRUCTIVE criticism - not crap.

Finally, you are very wrong to think we dont care if you choose a competitor.

I can only say I am dismayed by your opinions. What did we ever do that was so awful?, I would love to hear!

Cheers.

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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Feb 28, 2003 4:59 am

I know it's only been a few days since you posted, but have you come to a decision?
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Feb 28, 2003 5:18 am

Eh, I'm pretty sure my BA 777 flight to EWR was in 3-4-3, and i didn't have a problem with it (I'm 6' 3" and large).
 
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Feb 28, 2003 5:24 am

What difference does it make? They are both long aluminium tubes with seats in.

I would be more concerned with the seat pitch & IFE.
 
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Feb 28, 2003 6:01 am

If you are not linked in to a FFP and have flown on one of the 3 before,why not try out one of the other types.

I used to love flying on 747's and 777's then changed to US to try out the A330.Since the first trip,i've swiched my FFP and prefer the A330 and 767 to the larger widebody planes,reason I hear you ask,on the A330 and 767 you are never more than one seat from the isle.Much better than the 3-3-3,or 2-5-2 on the 777 IMHO.

Just my opinion,everyone is different.

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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Feb 28, 2003 6:41 am

I flew a BA 777 from ATL to LGW in June of 2002. The service was fine, but the seats were rather uncomfortable compared to what I think you can get. They were not terrible, but I've flown in better. Nonetheless, it was a good flight and I think that would be a good choice. Have you flown the 777 though? If you have, maybe you should try something else, if you want to. I flew SR A330s in 2001 and although you would be on a BWIA A340, it would still have the 2-4-2 layout in economy. That is a very nice layout in my opinion. The 3-3-3 layout is nice if you are in the middle, but for being in the window seat, it is not the greatest due to the climb over two seats to get out into the aisle. I loved the A330 flights! The 744 would just be great to fly I think. I have never flown one and would love to fly such a huge plane. I hope this helps a little bit!

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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Feb 28, 2003 7:04 am

Firend of mine who is a controller at Newark Center here in the NYC area tells me that A340s cant climb in cold weather, either.
 
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Feb 28, 2003 8:32 am


It is safe to say that it will be between BWIA and BA.

Thanks alot for all these posts. First bout this ALM thing does this include Barbados which has the daily 777 service as well. I remember that the 777 has 3 seats on the windows, I assume that has not changed???

VC 10: it does matter, because I would like to travel on different planes for the hec of it.

Does the 777 have individual screens?? I no for sure that the 340 doesnt.
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Feb 28, 2003 8:42 am

I love taking the A340 overseas. Why? It's very nice and QUIET! I fly with Lufthansa's A340s overseas a lot, I enjoy it everytime!!

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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Feb 28, 2003 9:21 am


BWIA seat pitch is 33- 34 inches for economy. What is BA???
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Sat Mar 01, 2003 3:20 am

Still a toss-up, eh?

From a non-aviation enthusiast (my father):

DEN-FRA Lufthansa A340 - very loud - (he sat in the third to last row center)

FRA-DEN United 777 - not nearly as loud - (he sat in the fifth to last row center)

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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Sat Mar 01, 2003 3:51 am

I heard the A340 was very very quiet. I was on an AA 777 so it had rolls, they weren't quiet, but it was very pleasent.
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Sat Mar 01, 2003 4:40 am

I flew on a BA 777 and it was the most comfortable flight I've ever been on (though I admittedly do not do too much long-haul flying). Each seat had a personal TV with 24 channels (I think it was 24 at least). Food was by far the best I have ever had in the air. Personally, I like the 3-4-3 layout more than the 2-5-2 because you never run the risk of having two people on either side of you.

As for climb performance, the 777 outperforms anything in its class, and is only second to the 747 in speed (though the new A340-500/600s are not far behind).

All of them sound like safe bets, but I'd recommend the 777.
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Sat Mar 01, 2003 4:58 am

I've only been on the 777. . .and I've loved every flight. I love the larger windows; does the A340 have the same size windows, or are they like an A320?

Just wondering,
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Sat Mar 01, 2003 8:48 am

My 2 cents

I prefer a 747 anyday.

My experience on UA and BA 777s is that the darn overhead luggage when closed is too high for me to reach to open without stepping on the seat!And I'm 5' 9".Maybe I have real short arms or something! I think Boeing have got this high ceiling stuff a little overboard here unless its specific to UA and BA.

I actually just got back from ORD-MUN in a LH A340, my first A340 flight. I had been on A330s (CX,MH, KL) before and been quite impressed with those. The seats in economy are torture on LH, there is ZERO padding in the bottom cushion! Its starting to hurt after an hour or two let alone 8-10! They should take the seats from their European service A320/321s and put them in the A340! Admittedly this is obviously an airline specific problem.I noticed an advert in their on board magazine advertising the sale of old seats from their planes. Maybe they will get rid of the ones on the two A340s I was on! I also noticed on the LH A320/321 on German domestic services that the middle seat is wider than the other two. Does anyone else do that? I know UA and NW A320s don't!
 
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Sat Mar 01, 2003 10:31 pm

TWA1011: Isn't the 340 just reaching cruise alt at 8 hrs?

I've seen that LH POS clawing at the air several times departing PHX.


Haha, great one! Nothing beats the Pratt & Whitney 4090s on UA's 777 fleet.


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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Mar 13, 2003 8:28 pm

I know that this topic is almost two weeks old but I thought I would just give some info having just travelled return with BWIA.

I went home to POS on January 15th. I asked for an exit row seat, and as usual I got it - 31K (it helps when you arrive at the airport 3 and a half hours early). Good view of the flaps and ailerons. This was my very first flight in an A340 and it was good to actually see what it's like from a traveller's perspective instead of a maintenance perspective. The seats were comfortable (more comfortable than on Virgin's 742s) but could have been a little bit wider. The only IFE available is a selection of music channels. Movies are shown on drop down screens that are located along the center of the aircraft and at every three seat rows and also on small LCD panels on the bulkheads. There is a moving map that is displayed whenever nothing is showing on the screen and altitude, temperature, distance from destination and ETA are also displayed. The only critique of this being that as it is obviously an ex-Air Canada aircraft everything is shown in French and English. There was more leg room than on the Tristar (34 inches compared to 31) and the extra three inches was appreciated (I'm 6'3") when I was stuck on 16H for the return leg.

We left LHR just over an hour late but it was not due to any fault of BWIA (Betcha Wait In Airport), the jetty could not be removed from the airplane as the motor in it had broken down - I do hope BWIA asks for compensation from BAA and HAL.

The flight was relatively smooth and the plane handles turbulence quiet well. I heard that the cabin in the A340 was quiet but I was surprised at just how quiet. You don't have to project your voice to be heard (you practically had to shout on the L1011). Landings were surprisingly smooth (last time I flew with BWIA was on the L1011 last year, it was a training flight also and the female first officer put it down VERY firmly - overhead compartments opened).

On the return trip on 8th March the flight left 2 hours late - due mainly to bad planning by BWIA at POS. All flights had to use one queue at ticketing. The Carnival was last week (3rd & 4th) March. People are now returning to all corners of the world. 33 desks in the terminal and they decide to cram ALL BWIA flights into desks 1-10. They could have at least segregated the flights at different desks. All BWIA flights HAD to leave late or they would be facing lots of compensation claims (which they will do as the flights left very late). I arrived at 1530 to check in for a 1830 flight. I was not checked in until 1935.

Other than those hiccups the flight was rather good. If you have nto flown in the A340 I would suggest you take the opportunity with bwee.

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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:17 pm

BA again reducing their seat pitch to 30 inch????  Wow!

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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Fri Mar 14, 2003 12:12 am



Panman thanks for the info. Are the seats pink like those of the 737s with this leather like material....

I really dont know if I would like such a quiet flight I find the sound of the engines nice... that why I like to sit by the wing although with the L1011 sitting towards back was nice as well.
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Wed Mar 19, 2003 10:52 pm

No the seats are not pink. Looks like they left most of the Air Canada interior in - only disconnecting the in-flight phones.

31K was on the right hand side right behind the wings, in line with the flaps, had a good view of the aileron and flaps (like I mentioned in previous post). And funny enough for an 8 hour flight (LHR-ANU segment) which was about 80% full and over 4000 miles long we didn't take that long to reach cruising altitude (about 10 mins longer than L1011). At least the queues to the toilets were not as long as they have been on the L1011. Then again all 5 of the economy class toilets in the Tristar were in the back whereas the A340 has 2 in the back and 3 in the middle. Try BWIA you will enjoy the flight. However the leases with Yes and Air Holland do go tits up from time to time. Last week the Air Holland 767 (the twice a week replacement for the L1011) went tech thus BW901 left LHR 12 hours late (I had a friend on the flight)

Sorry for taking so long to reply - I don't frequent the a.net forums as much as I used to.
 
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Mar 20, 2003 3:19 am

A340 man!

Ive ridden a 772 of singapore to istanbul and i must say that it did not feel very comfortable.
A340's are always great aircraft to use unfortunatly there are many european carriers that do not use it for their transatlantic crossings.
 
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RE: Airbus 340 Or Boeing 777 For 8 Hour Flight

Thu Mar 20, 2003 7:24 am


Well you may have already decided to what airline you will fly but as i have just found this thread i thought there were a couple of points that needed sorting out.

Cedarjet- AML was dissolved earlier last year and all aircraft have been converted back to 3-3-3 in World traveller. This is very old info that you are passing on and maybe some fact checking on the BA website would have confirmed this too you.

CPH-R you flight to EWR on the 777 would have had seating at 3-3-3- out of LHR as the AML aircraft with 3-4-3 never operated from LHR and certainly not on a prime route like EWR

Sabena 690 - the seat pitch has not been reduced to 30" but with the new seats has actually been increased to 32" due to cushioning. Maybe still not mega comfortable but every inch is a blessing to an economy pax.

I can only say that all 3 airlines rate for different reasons and so cost would be the final choice. If you find Gatwick more convenient and i certainly find it better than LHR then either one will do but LHR has all the prestige and customers seem to prefer it so it may be your choice.

Enjoy your flight who ever you fly and let us all know what you decide???

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