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AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Thu Mar 06, 2003 12:18 pm

CNN is reporting a pilot was arrested in Omaha, Nebraska for making threats. No details yet.
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Pilot1113
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Thu Mar 06, 2003 1:59 pm

>>CNN is reporting a pilot was arrested in Omaha, Nebraska for making threats. No details yet.<<

Probably just some frustrated pilot screaming at a TSA agent, who believes he/she is god's gift to law enforcement.

- Neil Harrison
 
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Thu Mar 06, 2003 2:15 pm

I'm sorry, but sometimes you can't help but laugh. Here it is:

OMAHA, Neb. (AP) -- An American Airlines pilot was cited for disorderly conduct Wednesday after allegedly threatening to chop off the head of a federal security agent.

City prosecutor Marty Conboy said the pilot and agent apparently had an argument and the pilot referred to an ax on the plane that could be used to behead the agent. Exactly what happened was still under investigation.

The pilot was cited and released, police Sgt. Cathy Cook said.

American Airlines would not identify the pilot and spokeswoman Julia Bishop-Cross said only that the airline was investigating.

The flight to St. Louis left 90 minutes late with another pilot.
 
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Thu Mar 06, 2003 2:32 pm

The TSA agent was probably 'busting his balls' over something trivial and the pilot, in frustration, said something like "Hey, if I wanted to hurt someone, there is a freaking crash axe on board the damn plane that I could use!"

Not the smartest reaction by the pilot, but I can totally understand it.

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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Thu Mar 06, 2003 2:43 pm

These TSA agents are way too full of themselves. This is getting rediculous. I swear they have a hard-on for pilots.

If they wanted to attend college for 4 years and sink a couple thousand in flight training, then they could too earn a professional's pay. For some unknown reason they believe that it is the fault of that Captain or First Officer walking through security and feel the need to exercise that new authority they were given.

- Neil Harrison
 
jhooper
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Thu Mar 06, 2003 3:36 pm

I think the screeners are really just listening for key words, and when they hear them, they simply go haywire without thinking. Pretty sad, really...
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Thu Mar 06, 2003 3:45 pm

I wonder if the power hungry TSA worker pulled the pilots FAA certificate (which they now have the power to do) because he/she/it felt the pilot was a security risk?

I got yelled at in JAN the other morning for grabbing my bags off the belt before one of the Thousands Standing Around agents could move them to the end of the line. It's nice when they take their job seriously, but this crap has gotten way out of hand!! My biggest beef is that THEY MAKE MORE MONEY THAN I DO!!!!

I'm sick of the following questions/demands:

"Do you have a laptop in there?"
"Remove your hat please"
"Please walk through with your arms at your side"
"Are you sure you don't want to take your shoes off?"
"Can I see your ID sir"
"Geez - you guys pack like you're gone for a long time"
"Aren't you a little young for this job?"

The replies I wish I could make to the questions/demands:

"No, and if I could afford one, and actually had one, I would know that I have to remove it from the case"
"Really? I do this everyday and ha NO IDEA I needed to do that"
"Naw - I thought I'd walk through flailing my arms, or knitting an afghan"
"Yes I'm sure - I have dignity, am not in my parents house, they won't beep and I don't wear metal shanked shoes to work - because I know the hoops I jump through just getting to my darned office!!"
"Can I see yours?"
"Well, I will be gone AT WORK for 4 days, therefore need things to wear etc... while not in uniform. This other bag is my food that I have to bring while on a 4 day trip because eating 3 meals a day, for 4 days on my wages is just not possible and the third bag is 30 pounds of information to get that airplane off the ground, through the sky and back on the ground in one piece, while keeping my life, my job and your grandma from wetting her gertle."
"Aren't you a little bored and tired of your highly paid power trip?"


Just needed to vent...


AZJ
 
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Thu Mar 06, 2003 3:55 pm

It cost just a bit more than a couple of grand to get flight training. More like 25k, no less.

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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Thu Mar 06, 2003 4:31 pm


I wonder if the power hungry TSA worker pulled the pilots FAA certificate (which they now have the power to do) because he/she/it felt the pilot was a security risk?


I don't think that just any TSA screener can pull your certificate. I'm pretty sure it would have to come from higher up that that. Nonetheless, I'm not going to be handing my ticket over to those power hungry tools.
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Thu Mar 06, 2003 4:51 pm

Dmitry - explain your comment

Jhooper - well, they may not physically be able to take it - but they can deem the pilot a risk and have the feds pull the cert.

http://www.alpa.org/alpa/DesktopModules/ViewDocument.aspx?DocumentID=1793



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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Thu Mar 06, 2003 4:54 pm

I love how they explain things to you like you're a child when walking through.

"In a moment I'm going to ask you to take off your shoes and raise your right leg. I'm going to pass my magic wand over your leg. If it beeps I may have to touch your leg with the back of my hand."

I have to wonder what they'd say to a large-gauge piercing in someone's no-no-nether regions. I might just have a problem with Antoin backhanding me there.
 
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Thu Mar 06, 2003 6:55 pm

They have to explain things like children because the sad fact is the majority of americans are too stupid to understand anything else.

Umm yeah, I guess because he is a pilot he is incapable of causing any harm and is never going to commit a crime. He made a threat and was stopped for it. Big deal, I guess I can go around telling people Im going to kill them because they frustrated me??
 
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Thu Mar 06, 2003 7:44 pm

Just wait for the day when travelers and airline employees finally get fed up and just start lashing out at the TSA agents, charge the check point (creating new TSA-skinned rugs  Smile), or simply refuse to travel until the morons in Washington get rid of these bozos.

I still like the part where they always strip search (well not literally) employees even though they have already passed a 10-year FBI background check. At least in some smaller airports, airline employees can completely avoid the idoits and get out to the ramp and up to the gate without having to go through screening.

Ugh...if only you could speak your mind directly to them without having to worry about getting thrown in jail.
 
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Thu Mar 06, 2003 11:23 pm

Azjubilee... one of these days I'm gonna have to buy you a beer for that. Thats funny... especially the part about the afghan.

As much of a pain in the ass as the TSA folks are, I do beleive they are better than what we had previously. Most of the TSA folks I've run into while getting screened are genuinely nice and friendly and try and make small talk while I'm waiting on my bags. I've finally realized this is what I'm going to deal with for the next 33 years and have just accepted it. I can't change it, theres no reason to get pissed every morning for the next 33 years. Life is just plain to short for it.
 
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 12:19 am

There was an agent with an attitude in Las Vegas last week. The guy was admonishing some guy to take something off his belt...rather rudely. The woman behind me made a comment rather loudly (enough for him to hear, but not threatening in any way) about isn't it possible to at least ASK rather than accuse. The guy's attitude changed for a while anyway.
 
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RE: Adam84

Fri Mar 07, 2003 12:25 am

Please, speak for yourself, and your fellow Californians!

Anyway, I have noticed, for the most part, a much more alert, courteous and efficient security apparatus. There always have been and always will be a selection of assholes who take themselves too seriously. A more likely scenario here is that, after being tired of a pilot being too arrogant to comply with what he KNOWS he has to do every day, the agent got tired of him and put the smack down to put him back in his place. TSA agents don't corner the market on arrogance and ignorance by any means, especially with a bunch of popmpous ass pilots around. I have seen, on several occassions, pilots getting away with attitudes and language towards security agents that would land any of us normal folks in the back office being interrogated! One time, I even saw one pilot tell his colleague to "just cool it and take your damned hat off for godsakes!" The queue of 50+ people and growing as this moron threw his hissy fit clapped.

It goes both ways, and, ultimately, the one with the badge, plastic or not, is going to win. I am sure a pilot aboard his aircraft takes his authority no less seriously, and will have no problem having a passenger arrested for making stupid, threatening comments he knows will not amount to anything.

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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 1:20 am

Since the TSA guys have been around, I've found security to be more professional and efficient. It does seem like there are a lot of them standing around not doing much. I guess they do that to staff for the peak times but to think the airlines have to pay for this extra security stuff....no wonder they can't make a dime. I hope someday technology will allow for a more streamlined process and fewer agents. Pilots that have been though a ten year FBI/airline background check shouldn't have to go through this. After all, what good does it do to take away a pilots nail clippers when he does have a crash axe in the cockpit....or is at the controls of a 100 ton airplane.
 
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 1:35 am

Maybe in case he is in a stolen uniform, or, like a couple pilots in the recent past, has a suicidal inkling....a plane crashed into the ground and a plane plunged into the sea should remind us that pilots are not above the security measures we all have to go through. The very fact that they do have control of a 100 ton potential missle should subject them to at least the level of security a guy with a laptop is subjected to.

If we've learned anything through all this, it should be that the most unlikely can and will happen. Some people are just going to have to deal with it, or get jobs as truckers instead.

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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 2:15 am

I totally agree - that the TSA workers are 1000 times better than the contract workers of our past. They are way more professional, couteous and actually seem like they want to do the best they can at their job. With that said - I still maintain my frustration. I understand they have a job to do, but as crew members we are subjected to this EVERY DAY! It gets tiresome to get treated like we've never done this before. It also gets really iritating to be treated like we are a threat and are suspicous. For the record, I have never snapped at a TSA agent, nor have I seen any fellow crewmember do so. I have the outlook that I'll have to deal with this knee jerk reactive process for the rest of my career... that is if I can make it through the next 35 years of being yanked around by all facets of this industry. After all the crap we go through on a daily basis, it's hard to remember why I love to fly.


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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 2:57 am

Oh, Man! This is the first time I've heard of Omaha getting this much attention!
 
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 3:30 am

The first TSA screeners we had were great. They were all ex-military and were so friendly. But I have to be honest, I can't tell the difference between most of the ones they've gotten since then and the old pre-9/11 ones. They're all so ghetto! I mean a lot of them are really nice, but come on, it's like the same old people.

I'm glad that pilot got arrested, though. I understand people getting frustrated, but you can't go around telling people that you're going to kill them, that's just not cool.
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 5:50 am

Looks like crash axes will be the next banned item......................
 
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 5:56 am

I wonder if the pilot will lose his job?

"These TSA agents are way too full of themselves"

We don't know who's fault it was yet, so you can't blame the TSA agents.

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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 7:14 am

My guess is that the pilot made a comment after being treated like a criminal by the TSA guy like this "listen, if I wanted to kill someone, I'd use the crash ax that sits right by my seat in the cockpit". This pissed off the TSA guy and he twisted the words around and had the police remove the pilot from the plane. As much as I have been frustrated with the TSA for stupid time consuming for all involved (especially the people behind me in line) searches of bags etc., you have to keep your damn mouth shut and let them feel important for the moment. This is probably the pinnacle of their careers and the way to go about changing the current policy of flight crews having to go through security can not be done by individuals at the checkpoints. Not all airports require flight crews to endure this waste of time. ATL is one that comes to mind. If you posess an ATL badge, you get around security thus saving the passangers and TSA agents the time taken to put on the show with the flight crewmember. Other smaller airports allow crews to pass behind operations but the id's must be checked by the airline workers working the ticket counter.
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 7:22 am

>>>" totally agree - that the TSA workers are 1000 times better than the contract workers of our past. They are way more professional, couteous and actually seem like they want to do the best they can at their job. With that said - I still maintain my frustration. I understand they have a job to do, but as crew members we are subjected to this EVERY DAY! It gets tiresome to get treated like we've never done this before. It also gets really iritating to be treated like we are a threat and are suspicous. For the record, I have never snapped at a TSA agent, nor have I seen any fellow crewmember do so. I have the outlook that I'll have to deal with this knee jerk reactive process for the rest of my career... that is if I can make it through the next 35 years of being yanked around by all facets of this industry. After all the crap we go through on a daily basis, it's hard to remember why I love to fly."

1-800-WAAAAAAAAA  Sad

Let me ask you something, Azjubilee: Have you ever been outside of the United States? Spend some time in a 3rd World shit hole--where there are no civil liberties--and you may have a different perspective than the snot-nosed crybaby that you are coming across as.

Maybe we just ought to thank our stars above that there is some oversight now--on a system that woefully let us all down a year and a half ago. The TSA is a whole new animal--give it some time to break in. Sometimes implementing change is painful.

>>>"My biggest beef is that THEY MAKE MORE MONEY THAN I DO!!!!"

Right now, there is a GS-11 position available for a 3000/500 (100 hrs turbine time) pilot position--saw it on a Federal Website. Flying prisoners. Starting pay is $50k +. If you are feeling froggy.....leap!

>>>"that is if I can make it through the next 35 years of being yanked around by all facets of this industry"

What are you...23? Yanked around!? When I left active duty with 1000+ hrs in F-18s I lowered myself (because I loved to fly) to part 135 work (3 crap-ass box haulers), Great Lakes (the rock bottom), a reputable "National Airline", the number one carrier in America which is now bankrupt (where I was promptly furloughed due to the mistakes of minimum wage workers on Sept 11th). Now I am working for a reputable airline for the next three years on contract. Sitting sideways.

I'll tell you one thing, even my military uniform and ID does not entitle me to have my ass kissed. That I have to earn.

 
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 8:02 am

Speaking of calling 1-800-WAA-AAAH...

TT--Your F/A-18 time entitles you to the exact opportunity that AZjubilee, IAHERJ, me and the rest of the line pukes around here get. No one is expecting to have their ass kissed but if they strip-searched you every time you climbed aboard your Hornet--knowing you had bombs and a gun in it, you'd get a little tired.

Sorry your career is going so crappy, after 15 years at TWA I finally got some job security with AA buying us. Oops! Not so fast--looks like I'll be on the street soon. I guess they forgot to disclose the inevitibility of change in this business when I signed on. Good luck.TC
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azjubilee
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 9:33 am

TT737FO - well you totally missed the point apparantly. I'm not being a crybaby nor am I seeking anyones shoulder to cry on. I'm just venting the frustrations that nearly every crewmember in the industry probably has! Yes, I have been out of the country MANY times and frankly have no idea why that's even relavent. I don't need my ass kissed as you say - just want a logical and common sense filled security experience. The screeners didn't let us down on 9/11 - why? these highjackers took through security nothing that wasn't allowed! So what's your point? Maybe you should call your 1-800-waaaah line since you seem to be so bitter about your aviation experience.


AZJ


By the way, 23 + 35 = 58
 
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 9:52 am

Well, let's not get into a pissing contest--yes, math in public has let me down.

My point(s): there is a lot of whining on the part of flight crews. Is the system broke? yes. Is it moving in the right direction? yes. Is it there yet? no. But to say that 35 years of flying isn't worth it is, well....misguided.

At 25 ( or whatever age) just feel fortunate to have a job--in aviation. There are CFIs struggling out there that would be happy to switch places with you or me.

Some (I use the term loosely) TSAs are power-hungry (as can be any newly credentialed agent with a shield), and the minority give the system a bad name.

Furthermore, the government pay structure may look lucrative at the entry level--yes they do make more than you. Probably not a real good reason to get pissed off, though.

I have worked for some less than stellar companies. I have had some bad experiences with companies out there. But my aviation experience has never been crappy. I can endure the bullshit.

My point about 3d world countries is that the average joe cannot afford to fly there. The average joe cannot afford to go to flight school. Compared to the martial systems of the 3d world, the TSA is pretty tame.

In summary, there will be a lot of BS to go through in the days ahead with TSA. But, it's a new system and I believe it will change for the better.

 
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 10:04 am

TSA really stands for "THOUSANDS STANDING AROUND"!!! I think that they are a waste of American tax dollars because there are about a 1,000 people working one metal detector and then about 10,000 of the idiots walking around the airport. I'm sorry but I seriously wish I flew CARGO!

ATTENTION FUTURE PILOTS: FLY CARGO!!!!
yes you still have security but it isn't the BS we put up with everyday!

If you're bored and sitting around the terminal, count the "white shirts". I bet you, you can't count them all at one checkpoint. They just multiply!


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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 10:34 am

TT - no pissing match intended. Don't get me wrong - I value my job. I have come so close to getting furloughed twice now in the last 2 years that I am lucky to have a job. I am also lucky at my young age to be living my dreams. The TSA isn't going to make me quit. Only I can make that decision. I know for a fact though... this is not the glamourous job the world sees it as. This is not what I dreamed of. I didn't dream of not being able to pay my bills every month as a professional aviator. Things could be alot worse, yes, but they definitely can get better. I applaud the fact that the TSA workers finally get paid a respectable wage. Now we just have to change the wages of the entry level flying jobs - and don't give me the "you have to pay your dues B.S"

It's so sick and wrong to think that I could have a job that doesn't require time, effort, education and years of my hard work and perseverance and make more money, while not having to deal with the issues we have to face everyday.

It's just an awful time to be in aviation right now...

AZJ
 
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 10:38 am

"Hi, I'm John Liland, and I'm a USAir Pilot. I feel safe in speaking for all of my colleagues when I say I DO NOT HAVE A DEATH WISH. I have no strange compulsions to intentionally CRASH a plane; well, it's a good thing, because god knows it would be easy... Easier than not crashing it, which is pretty difficult. How can we be sure that none of our pilots have a death wish, well we can't, but if they did, they probably would have crashed their planes by now, so ::Snicker:: you think about that."

-Chris Elliott, SNL
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 10:42 am

>>If you're bored and sitting around the terminal, count the "white shirts". I bet you, you can't count them all at one checkpoint. They just multiply!<<

I have and the majority of them are in the food court, or socializing with their other TSA friends.

At BOS when I was traveling back to LAF this past January, I counted 17 (yes, that number was correct) TSA agents eating, drinking, or otherwise fratenizing with friends across from my gate in the AA terminal (which is far from the screening checkpoint). There was only 5 TSA agents manning the security checkpoint, with a line that streached clear down to the Chicago check-in desks.

Now, they want to unionize and they're going to get arrest powers. I would be very scared. A TSA screener with the ability to wontonly and indescrimently arrest people with little or no evidence. When they do get these powers, I will never fly again.

- Neil Harrison
 
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 3:28 pm

Mr. Bin Ladin has won!!!!!

We are living in a complete police state when TSA screeners can arrest people. "Thousands Standing Around" is the perfect derciption of what goes on at most US airport security screening points. (Not to mention every US ghetto seems to have been emptied in the rush to employ these people.) Some are very proffesional, and I appreciate that. I want good security. But I don't understand why 30 screeners are necessary for 3 metal detectors. Plus, they are always sitting around (in groups of 10-20) in the gate areas. What the hell are they being paid for?!?! To sit in huge groups and shoot-the-shit! And our PAX are expected to pay a security tax for this?

Also, at the recent anti-war protests in NYC the NYPD harrassed, arrested, pushed, shoved, and beat-up people who were exercising their constitutional right to orderly protest our governments relentless rush to war.

Congrats Osama!!! Mission accomplished.
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 4:10 pm

The TSA exemplify the current administration which is more akin to a budding
dictatorship with all the human rights enjoyed by the former residents of eastern Germany.

My heartfelt sypathies to the hapless pilot in this incident, the insanity of placing the authority to revoke a certificate in the hands of these idiots is incomprehensible.

I don't think many of the victims of 9/11 would agree with the loss of basic constitutional liberties in the excuse of fighting the 'war on terror'
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Fri Mar 07, 2003 8:43 pm

About time someone pulled those pilots down to earth.
Many of them think they're gods and above the law.
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Sat Mar 08, 2003 1:30 am

What's the matter, Jwenting? Some pilot must have nailed your girlfriend Big grinTC
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kevi747
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Sat Mar 08, 2003 2:11 am

Jwenting,

I will have to agree with your point. Pilots are so gross! Bunch of rich, old, white, Republican men with grey, receding hairlines who think they're God. I was so disappointed when I was first hired. I thought I'd get to meet some cute pilots. Now I realize that's pretty much an oxy-moron. I can honestly say that after 4 years of flying I've seen a grand total of 3 that I'd ever consider dating. (All MIA-based).

The really ironic part is how homophobic most of them are. I guess they're afraid that some queenie male F/A is going to try and hit on them. Nobody wants their tired asses!
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Pilot1113
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Sat Mar 08, 2003 3:38 am

>>About time someone pulled those pilots down to earth.
Many of them think they're gods and above the law.<<

Shove it.

- Neil Harrison
 
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Sat Mar 08, 2003 5:20 am

"Pilots are so gross! Bunch of rich, old, white, Republican men with grey, receding hairlines who think they're God."

Well I'm young, semi-conservative, with a full head of hair!
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Sat Mar 08, 2003 1:06 pm

Actually i'm a Democrat and proud of it.
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Sat Mar 08, 2003 10:43 pm

Hey Kevi747,

I disagree with you. Nowadays, I have seen a lot of young airline pilots not some skaggy old pilot with gray hair that you mentioned.

Here is a story:

I was flying on Southwest, departing out of Norfolk Intl. Airport while I had 15 minutes left until my plane leaves. I ran quickly hoping to make this flight, luckily no one was in line for sercurity screening. I went thru screening which it took me approx. 10 minutes in which all I had was a laptop and my camera bag. Apparently, I made my flight becuase the ticket agent at the gate was expecting me on board so they hold the plane for me but for us and Southwest, once again, we departed on time to Baltimore.



Regards,

Kevin
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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Sun Mar 09, 2003 4:39 am


The TSA people at the airports have been doing a hell of a job, the aviation community have been resisting them from
day 1 due to all of the changes they are making. The TSA has its marching orders as well, don't forget they are screening for potential terrorist and nobody knows who they look like anymore.

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RE: AA Pilot Arrested In Omaha

Sun Mar 09, 2003 4:58 am

Kevi747,

Most of us came to this profession with the idea of working with a bunch of cute young girls for flight attendants instead we get a bunch of whinny gay guys. Imagine OUR disappointment.