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SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Fri Mar 07, 2003 11:40 pm

SAA's third A340-600, ZS-SNC, had a busy first day in the country yesterday, 6 March. It arrived in Johannesburg in the morning on delivery from Tolouse, then did a test/training flight to Bloemfontein in the mid afternoon. By the evening it had done its first commercial domestic service for SAA as SA581 to Durban where it spent the night.

 
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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sat Mar 08, 2003 12:21 am

How are SAA's A340-600 ( first 2 so far ) ? Are they happy with the aircraft ? I must admit apart from the lovely tail , the body is so white .How about an updated livery ?


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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sat Mar 08, 2003 6:46 am

Talking about a changed livery, did you see pics of the SAA A340-600 that did the flypast at the World Cup cricket recently: lots of logos underneath!

I think SAA are pretty happy with the aircraft so far. Here are some extracts from an article about the aircraft that appeared in a local newspaper recently:

Full story at: http://www.sundaytimes.co.za/2003/02/23/business/companies/comp04.asp

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Already there are indications that the decision to acquire a new fleet was the correct one.

The aircraft needed 28 tons of fuel less than the B747 Classic which usually services the route [JNB to Hong Kong] - a saving of some R77 000. It also carried an extra 30 tons in weight, increasing revenue further. And it needed only three cockpit crew rather than five.

SAA estimates that over a year the A340 will carry four times the payload of a B747 Classic on the Hong Kong route. And studies have shown that to New York, the A340 will use around 22 tons of fuel less than the B747-400 .

 
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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sat Mar 08, 2003 10:35 am

Ohhh , thanks for the information . I am glad the A340 works for them .
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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sat Mar 08, 2003 4:49 pm

Hi all

Will the new machine fly the Frankfurt route now, or will it also be used to Hong Kong?
Which of the series 200 Jumbo's are still flying?

Thanks for the updates on what is happening with the fleets etc.

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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sat Mar 08, 2003 5:03 pm

Frankfurt services with A340-600's commence on 13 March. All three aircraft will rotate on the 5 weekly flights each to Hong Kong and Frankfurt.

At the moment, SAA has 3 B747-200's (ZS-SAL,M,P) in regular service and one as a backup/spare aircraft (ZS-SAN).

The SAA Museum Society is due to take receipt of Boeing 747-244, ZS-SAN some time in the middle of April. Discussions are still underway as to where the aircraft will finally be parked and Rand Airport and JIA are both showing considerable interest in having it on their property. Go to http://www.saamuseum.co.za for more info.

Another snippet of news, the vertical stabilizer (fin) removed from ZS-SAO (the first B747-200 to be taken out of service) was rumoured to be destined for a final resting place in front of the SAA buildings at JIA, now it appears that a pilot might have purchased the ‘relic’ which he plans to erect on his farm. Also, the plan to move SAO to the same place where ZS-SPA was “dismantled” bogged down, literally. Moving on body gear only across a newly graded sand road, the footprint pressure was too great and the landing gear sank into the unstabilised ground and resisted all attempts to move her further. The aircraft will now be cut up where she is stuck.



 
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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sat Mar 08, 2003 9:00 pm

When was ZS-SNC delivered as I saw it today in Hong Kong and it looked VERY clean .

Also saw B-HQA, B-HQB and G-VFOX. 4 A340-600's...... not bad.
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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sun Mar 09, 2003 1:13 am

Having had a look at the schedule of those aircraft it seems as if ZS-SNC was assigned primarily to the JNB/FRA route with domestic flights to CPT in between, while ZS-SNA seems to server primarily HKG, yet all three of them rotate on those two international flights.
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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sun Mar 09, 2003 2:51 am

Do any of you know if any of the SP's are still around? I'm coming down to South Africa next month to do some spotting and I'd love to catch one.

SAA201, could you email me? Flyer737@aol.com


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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sun Mar 09, 2003 6:15 am

As far as I know ZS-SPE "Hantam" is still in service. It seems that ZS-SPC "Maluti" had it's last flight on the 14th of february. I had the great pleasure to be on board the inbound flight to ZRH. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sun Mar 09, 2003 6:49 am

SAA201,
any plans for it come to LHR soon?We had 2 743s today (and a 744 too I guess for the flight with the new biz seats).
 
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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sun Mar 09, 2003 7:02 am

"ZSSNC" you seem to be contradicting yourself a bit.

To verify:
There are 5 flights to Hong Kong (Tu, We, Th, Fri, Su) and 5 flights will be operated to Frankfurt (Mo, We, Fri, Sa, Su) with A346's. On Tu and Th, B747-300's will continue to fly to FRA.

The 3 aircraft will thus alternate between the two routes on a 20 day cycle. (One day per week set aside for overnight maintainece in Jo'burg) This is easiest to see if you list the flights for each day.
 
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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sun Mar 09, 2003 7:10 am

When the 4th and 5th A346's arrive in October, FRA will be served daily. London will receive 4 weekly services from South Africa, replacing B747 Classics on flights from Jo'burg and Cape Town.

When the 6th and 7th A346's arrive in December, Paris will get A346's 3 times a week and the last 3 remaining Classic services to London will replaced by A346's. SAA will thus operate 2 B747-400 services and one A346 service to London from SA every day.

Run a Timetable search on Amadeus.net for more information on the schedules.

 
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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sun Mar 09, 2003 7:19 am

What is SAA's passenger configuration for the A346s? Couldn't be more than 290-310 pax at best. I am always surprised at how the aviation press has pegged the A346 as the logical alternative to a 400 pax people mover like the Boeing 744. Its not. Its just a stepping stone from the A340, albeit one with more cargo capacity.
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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sun Mar 09, 2003 7:29 am

Actually for the SAA's seat configuration, it has more than 310 seats. I think it is only a two class layout seating close to around 340 seats.

correct me if I'm wrong....
 
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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sun Mar 09, 2003 10:05 am

It appears that ZS-SNC broke down here in Hong Kong last night and instead of leaving at between 23:00 and midnight, it didn't even make the revised departure time of 05:30. It seems that it is still here in Hong Kong. Not good for such a new plane!
 
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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sun Mar 09, 2003 12:33 pm

Well , new planes tend to get problems initially , once that is sorted out , the plane will be in great shape for many hours of flying .

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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sun Mar 09, 2003 12:41 pm

"Well , new planes tend to get problems initially , once that is sorted out , the plane will be in great shape for many hours of flying ."

The problem is that Airbus has promised launch customers that the A340NGs will be more reliable than the -200/-300s in an attempt to match the 777's reliability. IIRC, it was even garaunteed in some contracts (not sure if SAA got this clause or not). Incidents like this do not help the image they are trying to create.

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RE: SAA Now Has 3 A340-600's

Sun Mar 09, 2003 6:32 pm

Hello,
a guy who works for Rome-Fiumicino airport has told me that SAA will begin using the A340-600 on Rome when they will open the JNB-FCO route this coming summer.
Can anybody confirm this?

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