BRNeyes
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Resurrection Of Northeast Airlines W/ Tristar

Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:15 am

I just found this site and would like to respond to B747 Skipper about Northeast Airlines (Pty) Ltd. You say he's a friend of yours, huh? Well, let me tell you about your friend. His pilots, as of March 14, are stranded in Burkina Faso and Saudi Arabia because no one will pay for fuel to get the aircraft out of Burkina Faso. After 7 weeks of employment and over 120 hours of flying time, they have been paid for 15 hours. Promises of payment have been made numerous times. The cabin crew is in even worse shape, they have been paid NOTHING, not even a cent of per diem. One of the captains was threatened with house arrest in Saudi Arabia because Northeast didn't follow proper protocol. The crew in Burkina Faso has been there for 6 days on what was supposed to have been a turn. The captain of that crew is my husband. He has had to wash out his clothes every night, since he didn't bring his luggage on a simple turn. The way this company has treated its employees is criminal. And they will be treated as such in the coming weeks.
Both nose tires of the aircraft are shredded and Eric, the president of Northeast, expects the crew to ferry the aircraft to Sharjah with no repairs necessary.
Northeast currently has another L-1011 in Tucson that has just undergone paint and interior. Northeast can pay for cosmetic work on an aircraft, but can not pay their crews.
What a sorry excuse for a company.....
 
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RE: Resurrection Of Northeast Airlines W/ Tristar

Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:54 am

Yikes. Sorry to hear about your husbands plight. Hope it all works out for you and your family.
 
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RE: Resurrection Of Northeast Airlines W/ Tristar

Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:41 am

I saw the 1011 at TUS a week ago today, sitting behind an old TWA 1011. The tail number is 3D-NEG (ex N31019), cn 1066.

My first time driving around TUS, and the Northeast 1011 did stand out. Looked like a cross between a blast from the past, and a fantasy c/s.

Tom in NO (at MSY)
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RE: Resurrection Of Northeast Airlines W/ Tristar

Sat Mar 15, 2003 6:43 am

This post needs to be required reading for anyone wanting to post on this forum. I can't think of a better example of how airline management puts profits before the safety and well-being of its employees. This, guys, is precisely why we have unions.
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RE: Resurrection Of Northeast Airlines W/ Tristar

Sat Mar 15, 2003 9:56 am

Whats this all about? Is 747 Skipper the nice guy who flew with Pan-Am long ago? I have not seen him on the board for ages!
Who ever he is, how did he end up in Saudia with this crippled L-1011? WHen did Northeast start up again? That poor crew! Keep us updated please!
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RE: Resurrection Of Northeast Airlines W/ Tristar

Sat Mar 15, 2003 10:00 am

Re-read the original post a little closer, sorry to hear your husband is stuck in Burkina Faso! Will keep the stranded crews in my prayers that they get the heck out of those places quickly!
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RE: Resurrection Of Northeast Airlines W/ Tristar

Sat Mar 15, 2003 10:08 am

For what it is worth, I am terribly sorry for what your husband AND you are going through. I say you also because even though you are not there with him physically, you are most certainly there in every other way. I pray for his safe and timely return. My best to you.
 
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RE: Resurrection Of Northeast Airlines W/ Tristar

Sat Mar 15, 2003 3:47 pm

The L-1011 is still at Hamilton and not likely to ever fly. I posted a while ago that it appeared to be for a movie, based upon some info from people at Hamilton. It turns out that they knew the airline was pure BS. Grunts know before anyone else it seems.

Anyway, I feel for your poor husband BRNeyes, and all the crew that was screwd. But you know the tune I hope. "Ya takes your chances."

Tom_in_NO, did I meet you at the museum?
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RE: Resurrection Of Northeast Airlines W/ Tristar

Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:41 pm

Sorry to hear that! What kind of OPS is Northeast involved that they get stuck at Burkina Faso and Saud Arabia?! I mean are these employee-shuttles from Arabia, AMC (which I can't think of) or Hadj-realted flights?

There need to be new ICAO-standards on who can run an Airline, how to run an airline etc. This kind of stuff happens to damn often around the world!
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RE: Resurrection Of Northeast Airlines W/ Tristar

Sat Mar 15, 2003 8:14 pm

Firings, if well done, are good for employee morale.
 
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RE: Resurrection Of Northeast Airlines W/ Tristar

Sat Mar 15, 2003 8:26 pm

Northeast had a contract (ACMI) with Worldwide Charters (a Canadian company) to fly Hajj trips. According to Eric Paillet (sp?), the president of Northeast, 2 weeks ago, Worldwide wired money to Northeast. The money never arrived. Worldwide sent Northeast a copy of the wire and realized that it had been sent to an account that was one digit off. Well, there really was no wire. Worldwide has never paid any of the landing fees, etc. for any of the flights that have been flown, in addition to never paying Northeast. The FBI, various embassies and the State Dept have all gotten involved. Sure, Northeast never got paid, but that has NOTHING to do with the crew. They don't have a piece of the company. And Northeast still continued to fly trips on the contract, even though they had been defrauded. The airport in OUA is owed over 150K for the accrued fees. And the crew is stuck in a place that under no circumstances could be thought of as a resort area. My husband has had a 32 hour duty day, followed by a 19 hour duty day, to fly 17 hours. It took them 18 hours to load the plane in Jeddah at the start of his 32 hour duty day.
As to the question of the other aircraft, Hamilton says it is ready to release it on March 21.
How a company could allow its employees to be treated in such a manner is inconceivable to me. When Northeast realized there was no money coming from Worldwide, they should have stopped flying on the contract.
 
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RE: Resurrection Of Northeast Airlines W/ Tristar

Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:50 pm

Steve,

You talking about Pima Air Museum, or is there another one by TUS? My 4-year old daughter and I were passing through Tucson on our way back east (in a newly acquired van), and stopped at Pima for a while, and also drove around TUS. This was on Friday, March 7 in the late morning.

Tom in NO (at MSY)
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RE: Resurrection Of Northeast Airlines W/ Tristar

Sun Mar 16, 2003 1:11 pm

Tom,

I did indeed mean the Pima Air Museum. Although there are several museumes in the area, none would be likely to appear much here. Friday, March 7, you would not have seen me at the air nuseum as I was at that nasty job thing I have trying to find who stole the $80,000 computer. The trial begins shotrly.

Although the Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum is a must see when in Tucson, it is not a museum. It is, in fact, a zoo.

Anyone that visits my fair city with 2 days only, must surely visit these two locations.

No, I do not work for the Tucson chamber of commerce, I just cannot think of a better area to live.

Signed Desertrat Steve.
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