cedarjet
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"You Can't Make A Bad Landing In A 747"?

Sun Mar 23, 2003 9:56 pm

Or so pilots, instructors et al say. But I've always found landings in 747s the same as any other plane (we're not going to talk about the MD11 here). Now I'm rethinking this. Recently I was lucky enough to fly from London to Sydney and back in first class on Qantas, and all four landings (BKK, SYD, SIN, MAN*) were greasers. Much as it warms the heart of any Aussie to think Qantas pilots are, you know, THE BEST, I have another theory, especially in the light of the Qantas overrun accident at Bangkok of a couple of years back, the pilot of which was the same gentleman that flew me from Singapore to Manchester on this recent trip.

What I'm thinking is, the reason pilots, instructors et al think you can't make a bad landing in a 747 is that up front (in first or upstairs in the office), they're so far from the main gear that they don't feel it, and they're up there in their ivory tower thinking they're Buck Rogers while all the schmucks in their back are wishing they'd bought travel insurance to pay for physio, and trying to find their false teeth which flew out and are under someone's seat three rows away.

* - a few snow flakes (I typed 'snokes' for some reason) closed LHR and we landed at Manchester instead, where we were kept on the plane for six hours due to a lack of parking spaces / immigration officials / airside buses (the reason kept changing). Welcome to the third world.

[Edited 2003-03-23 14:00:35]
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kaitak
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RE: "You Can't Make A Bad Landing In A 747"?

Mon Mar 24, 2003 12:01 am

The 747 can, apparently, flatter a pilot, but of course, you have to be careful. To be honest, I've had a fair few poor landings on 747s and I can only remember a handful of greasers. I flew from London to Seoul and back with Asiana recently and they were fine landings, particularly in London.

Of course, if you don't treat it with the respect it deserves or if weather conditions don't permit it (e.g. rain, strong winds - Kai Tak landings, for example!), it can look pretty uncomfortable.
 
Airbus Lover
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RE: "You Can't Make A Bad Landing In A 747"?

Mon Mar 24, 2003 12:24 am

Is it because of the huge main landing gears of the b747s that make me feel almost every landing was extremely smooth and one of the best. out of most of my numerous rides on the b747s (more on b744s) i was upfront or upstairs and there was only a few times had i thought the b747 landing was bad...

in other words, for me, a hard b747 landing is very rare..

however, with airbus widebodies especially the a330/340 landing with their nose so high up, and the tilted bogies, their landings are pretty smooth too.
 
delta-flyer
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RE: "You Can't Make A Bad Landing In A 74

Mon Mar 24, 2003 2:23 am

This thread is also posted in the Tech/Ops forum. Rule 18 requires that the same topic not be posted in more than one forum

Pete
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cedarjet
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RE: "You Can't Make A Bad Landing In A 747"?

Mon Mar 24, 2003 2:28 am

Well spotted Delta Flyer. It was meant to be here all along, the Tech / Ops posting was by accident. I tried to add a note at the bottom of this post to apologise but the edit function kept going wrong so I just left it, and assumed it wouldn't bother anyone. How wrong I was.

Thank you for reminding me about that crucial Rule 18. Where would we be without it?
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