Shamrock1Heavy
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Non-Reving - Explanation?

Tue Mar 25, 2003 4:56 pm

I really have no idea how it works. Can somebody please explain this to me. I see it all the time on this site, but I dont really know what it means. Thanks!

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RE: Non-Reving - Explanation?

Tue Mar 25, 2003 4:58 pm

Guess you mean non-rev? That's short for non-revenue, i.e. staff passengers not paying anything or just a small fee.
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RE: Non-Reving - Explanation?

Tue Mar 25, 2003 5:06 pm

Thanks, I am like "duh".

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RE: Non-Reving - Explanation?

Tue Mar 25, 2003 7:40 pm

Some airlines also like to throw some curve balls, calling "non-rev's" by other names. Pan Am called them "SubLo's" for Subject to Load. Just a little more trivia for ya!

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RE: Non-Reving - Explanation?

Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:36 pm

Also, you don't need to be an employee on all airlines, you just need to know one.
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RE: Non-Reving - Explanation?

Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:53 pm

Non-rev (aka non-revenue) refers to the industry practice of free or reduced-rate travel for company employees, their close family and those within the industry. Some carriers provide this service at no cost to the benefit holders, while others charge a small fee, usually no more than $50, depending upon class of service and distance traveled.

Also, the vast majority of carriers have agreements in place that allow employees and their families from another company to "non-rev" on their flights, despite any marketing competition. For example, a UA flight attendant could non-rev ORD-SFO on UA, SFO-SEA on AS, SEA-NRT on NW and NRT-ATL on DL.

Many companies also provide what are called buddy passes or friends and family certificates whereby the employee can give "non-rev" opportunities to friends or extended family on a trip-by-trip basis. These passes are limited in number ranging from the pathetic 8 at DL to upwards of 30+ at UA.

In all of the cases, the "non-rev" is at the bottom of the standby list. All revenue passengers are boarded, followed by company non-revs then others.
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RE: Non-Reving - Explanation?

Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:23 am

And when there are more than one non-revenue passengers (normally there are lol), each non-revenue usually has a specific priority. Some non-revenues are on business trips (trainings, etc.). Business non-revs have a higher priority over a non-rev taking a personal trip, for example.

Generally there are 4 classifications:

S1
S2
R1
R2

I can't remember what S stands for, but the 1 usually means non-rev, confirmed, '2' means space available. An easy way to associate 'R' is with "recreation", i.e. vacation, personal travel.
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RE: Non-Reving - Explanation?

Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:41 am

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RE: Non-Reving - Explanation?

Wed Mar 26, 2003 2:22 am

UA's buddy pass fares are now based off ID90 pricing. A roundtrip buddy pass fare from ORD-SFO is something like $350 now. You can buy a ticket cheaper and get a confirmed seat. If UA thinks they are going to make more money by charging such ridiculous fares for buddy passes, they better think again.
 
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RE: Non-Reving - Explanation?

Wed Mar 26, 2003 3:03 am

Another general term for non-revs was NRSA, which means Non Revenue Space Available.

On the original Frontier in the 1980s, employees and family members carried coupons that cost $2.50. Each flight took one coupon!. Frontier would serve steak on china, cloth napkins, and free wine in coach on flights of less than 90 minutes. Those were the days.

Also some airlines use check-in time as the non-rev priority (within a classification). Other airlines use company seniority as the criteria.
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RE: Non-Reving - Explanation?

Wed Mar 26, 2003 3:03 am

Actually, the SFO-ORD roundtrip companion fare, including all government fees and taxes, is $283. The fares have definitely gone up, esp on intl flts, but they are still good for last minute travel when advance purchase requirements cannot be met. Also if the employee is taking a trip with a friend, the friend might as well use the buddy pass, since they'll both be in the same standby boat anyway. If you know the flt is likely to be open in First or Business (doesn't happen often, but you see it sometimes), it could make for a nice last minute trip, esp to Hawaii, where the fares have actually gone down.

Also, UA uses BP codes for anyone who sits in a seat, ranging from BP1 (confirmed full fare pax) to BP10 (employees from other airlines). Most UA staff are BP8A, who are then prioritized by their company seniority.
 
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RE: Non-Reving - Explanation?

Wed Mar 26, 2003 3:18 am

Also some airlines gave priority to "thru" employees over employees originating. To get around this, some employees in Dallas for instance, would fly Dallas to Houston first. Then return to Dallas so they could check in as a thru passenger to have a higher priority on an outbound Dallas flight.
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