flyboy80
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America West's 757s

Sun Mar 30, 2003 3:28 pm

Hi. I just had a few questions reguarding AWA and their 757s. How old are the 757s? What routes do they operate on? And what is their future at AWA. I really like the schemes of all sorts AWA has adopted for there 757s, so they somewhat seem to be a "flag ship" of the airline. I was wondering if anyone knows how many AWA operates. Last I knew it was 13 or 14 ( I think) well thanks for any help
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RE: America West's 757s

Sun Mar 30, 2003 3:59 pm

I believe that the AWA 757s are actually some of the earlier 757s made, I know they have a couple former Republic ones which surprisingly didnt end up with Northwest.
 
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RE: America West's 757s

Sun Mar 30, 2003 4:07 pm

Ahhh yes the 757s. We have 13 in a 14/176 configuation. I'm not sure on the age or original operators of them are. Anyway, they are actually going to be sticking around until 2008 or so. In the process of lowering our payments on them we had to sign up for additional years on the lease. They fly all over the system mainly on the longer routes to the east coast but also fly the short hops like LAX-PHX and PHX-LAS for example. Last week I flew to SJD on one, we also fly them down south on occasion.
 
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yyz717
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RE: America West's 757s

Sun Mar 30, 2003 4:15 pm

They were all built betw 1984 & 89.

Of the 13, 6 were operated by Republic briefly before the NW takeover, 4 are ex-EA, and the last 3 (built in 1989) were ordered by America West.

I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
 
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RE: America West's 757s

Sun Mar 30, 2003 4:43 pm

Northwest got rid of the 6 Republic 757s because they had Rolls Royce engines while their other 757s had Pratt & Whitney engines. They were oddballs in the fleet.
 
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RE: America West's 757s

Sun Mar 30, 2003 9:01 pm

Yep. As Yyz717 has stated, 13 757s currently operated by HP...3 -2G7s (HP's customer code), 4 -225s (ex-Eastern) and 6 -2S7s (ex-Republic). Regards.
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RE: America West's 757s

Sun Mar 30, 2003 9:32 pm

i love america west's 757 aircraft, but when i book flying on america west, i avoid flying them at all cost, and i am elite with america west. america west has 13 757 aircraft, and each day, 13 757 are scheduled to fly in their system, and that is from a friend who is a market analysist and planner with hp. with that, i avoid flying them, but they are my favorite a/c in their system. currently, hp flies them on routes out of las to phx and jfk, and maybe still to dca. out of phoenix, the 757 flies out west to las, sfo, las, san, seasonally to sna, seasonally south to sjd and pvr, and back east to msp, cle, dfw, and sometimes a 757 will operate also into den, atl, and ord. although i love flying the america west 757, if one does go down for maint, it backlogs the system. booking a 757 on a route and if it books full to 190 pax, and then it goes down, putting an A320 on the route to fill it still overbooks the flight by 40 pax at least. in the past 4 months flying phx-sfo, this has happened to me 3 times. hp offered pax huge vouchers for later travel, and flights connecting through spokane, boise, reno, and eugene just to get pax off the original hp flights. great planes, they just need one more to be used as a spare. i did hear from many a people at america west, and many friends of mine are corporate with hp and that is why i love to fly them, that hp did look at the A321 a/c to replace the 757 due to it cockpit familiarity with the other airbus a/c, but the A321 was significantly underpowered and weight restricted on loads out of phoenix with the hot/high conditions. flights to the east with fuel and wx min would have to fly at loads less than 70%, nothing compared to a 757, so hp said no thanks.
 
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RE: America West's 757s

Sun Mar 30, 2003 10:11 pm

HP also flies them to BWI from LAS & PHX. I've had to opportunity to see all of their special colors here at on time or another.

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RE: America West's 757s

Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:44 am

I agree with Flyboy7974.

Twice in the past year my 757 flights were canceled between LAS and PHX and LAS and DEN reportedly due to mechanical or flight crew problems. This in itself isn't unique, but HP doesn't have a big enough plane to substitute on these very full routes, thus always leaving a few people stuck in LAS.
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RE: America West's 757s

Mon Mar 31, 2003 2:08 am

You used to be able to see them every once in a great while here in CMH too, but not anymore. I've seen the "Phoenix Suns" livery parked at the gate before.

Now its just airbus and a crap-load of regionals, but pretty soon it will just be 4 airbus flights a day.