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Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Sun Mar 30, 2003 9:24 pm

I know that DFW has multiple air traffic control towers, I assume due to their huge layout. I was wondering, are there any other airports with more than one control tower?
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RE: Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Sun Mar 30, 2003 10:18 pm

Birmingham International Airport in the Uk does, with one in the old terminal, and one on the new terminal, both are in use I believe.
 
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RE: Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Sun Mar 30, 2003 11:36 pm

CMH has one on top of the main terminal and the new 224ft. tower on International Gateway, which should become operational later this year (I hope).
 
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RE: Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Mon Mar 31, 2003 2:20 am

there are two (both of them very tall) atc towers @ Paris CDG, due probably to the unusually sprawling layout of that airport. Is CDG the airport at which there is the greatest distance between parallel runways? Anyway, it seems as though (judging by their placement) one of them takes care of the northern runway complex and the other the southern set.
 
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RE: Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Mon Mar 31, 2003 2:55 am

Newark airport (EWR) has several with different functions.

1. The old 'toothbrush'. This is the decades-old tower currently controlling most operations at the airport.

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2. The new tower. As far as I know, it isn't operational yet, but once it is, it will replace the toothbrush.

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(this is the only shot that I could find showing both towers, and how much taller the new one is, even though the new one isn't complete yet in this photo.)

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3. The terminal 3, a.k.a. Continental, ground ops tower.

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(inbetween the first and second concourse in the first photo)

Finally, a good overview shot of the entire airport.

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Considering this photo is looking approximately SSE:
The toothbrush is located approximately North of the two parallel arms of concourses C1 and C2.
The new tower is inside the 'loop.' It appears as a thin white stick between the westerly-most points of terminals A and C.
The ground ops tower is on top of terminal C, between concource C1 and C2.
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RE: Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Mon Mar 31, 2003 3:48 am

DTW

Their main control tower- last I heard the tallest in Great Lakes region is located by the new Northwest World Gateway

The old control tower- the blue one by the Smith Terminal which used to be the main tower but now is used by Wayne County Operations

There is a pretty tall ground control tower in the World Gateway terminal too, it stands up high to be able to see all around the mile long building.
 
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RE: Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Mon Mar 31, 2003 3:59 am

PHL opened a new tower within the past year, focusing mainly on US Airways ground movements... It's located between Terms A-East and B.
 
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RE: Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Mon Mar 31, 2003 4:46 am

G´day folks

HAJ has two towers: the old one near terminal A for ground-control and the new, higher one for ATC.

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RE: Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:11 am

AMS will have a second active [satelite] Tower by year-end. It will mostly handle traffic on the recently completed new 12500 ft runway [18L/36R] and possibly 18C/36C as well.
The main 333ft Tower will then handle the remaining runways [04/22 06/24, 09/27, 18R/36L and 18C/36C].

In fact, AMS soon will have five towers:
* old abbandoned tower from 1950, which is now re-activated as a bar/restaurant. In fact this tower [seven storey brick building which was moved a couple of hundred of feet to allow new office space construction];
* old 1967 tower [main tower until the 90's], still maintained as back-up tower I think;
* ramp tower at D-pier;
* main 333 ft Tower;
* satelite Tower for new runway 18L/36R.

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RE: Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:14 am

HNL has two, although I think they serve different functions. The one on Terminal M (the main terminal), is the old one (the one with the digital clock and temp. as you get of freeway) and I think it handles ground ops. The newer tower out in the middle of the runways by the golf course near Hickam is the main tower.

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RE: Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Mon Mar 31, 2003 10:25 am

I am not certain, but I believe the east and west towers at DFW are no longer in use, just the central tower. I could be wrong, through.
 
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RE: Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Mon Mar 31, 2003 10:39 am

MIA has two...actually three.


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This tower is the old FAA one, now used for ramp ops....in the main terminal. See the caption.


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And the two acutal control towers. The old one is the typical FAA brown that lots of airports have. The new, very tall tower had many problems as controllers claimed their vision was imparied by the 8 (?) columns that supported the structure...I think they then reduced them to 6...my numbers could be off....I am not sure what they are currently doing in the old one...

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RE: Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Mon Mar 31, 2003 10:54 am

The USAF has one installation like this--Randolph AFB in San Antonio has two, nearly-identical towers. The field has two parallel runways with about 6000' between.

Why the two control towers?

Well, Randolph has a building affectionately known as the "The Taj Mahal" and the local historic society decided it should remain the most prominent landmark on the base. A control tower tall enough to see both runways would have been taller than this historic building and, in the opinion of the society, would detract from the "Taj". Therefore, instead of spending about $4 million for one tower, the USAF was forced to spend about $3.5 million EACH for two towers.
 
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RE: Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Mon Mar 31, 2003 11:13 am

There are two in Hong Kong, one is for backup.
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RE: Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Mon Mar 31, 2003 3:42 pm

Shaun3000:

I think actually the opposite of what you said is correct.

DFW built the two new towers in 1992-1993 to reduce the strain on controllers working in the old central tower (built with the airport in 1974.) The plan as I remember it from newspaper articles back then was to split the airport between the two towers during the day. At night, when things calmed down, the central tower would handle operations.

Of course, this was back when Delta's DFW hub was very large (second largest in the system before DL beefed up SLC and CVG). Back then, we were hearing all kinds of talk about how DFW was going to surpass Chicago and Atlanta to become the nation's busiest airport. Of course, that didn't happen - we're now fourth, behind ATL, ORD and LAX.

The old central tower now looks like it's been mothballed. It's highly unlikely the FAA would close the two new towers after investing millions of dollars in them.

As an aside: DFW has seven towers total: the three FAA towers, the American ground control tower between Terminals A and C, and ramp control towers on Terminals A, C and E. The new International Terminal D also looks like it's going to have a ramp control tower.

Dallas Love Field has four towers - the old main tower on top of the terminal (from 1958), the newer FAA tower built in 1990 or so, and the two ramp control towers (built in 1968 for American and Braniff, and now used by Southwest and general aviation operators, respectively.)
 
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RE: Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Mon Mar 31, 2003 4:25 pm

I guess I should have asked which airports have multiple active towers operated by air traffic controllers?


Hamfist, it's been awhile, but isn't the entire base in between the two runways at Randolph? That would be quite a seperation.
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RE: Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Tue Apr 01, 2003 8:31 am

Yeah, the base is surrounded on three sides by the airfield. Two parallel runways and a parking ramp form sort of letter "H" design. The ramp forms the perpendicular part and is actually about 3/4 offset towards the south end of the runways.
 
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RE: Multiple Air Traffic Control Towers

Tue Apr 01, 2003 10:09 am


I know that Trinidad has 2 one at the old Piarco International and one at the new one I think. I remember seeing the lights of both in use but I do not know if both are operated. I assume that multiple aircraft control towers are a standard feature in large airports.
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