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Amazing Pic From Narita

Tue Apr 01, 2003 6:54 am

Clic on the link to see a pic from Narita. I would never have imagined this to be possible

http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?95090

What are all the destinations that UA serves from Narita?

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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Tue Apr 01, 2003 6:57 am

Hello,

I think this topic should be moved to the Photography forum. The pic is good anyway.

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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:00 am

Nah, this is DEN  Wink/being sarcastic

Like other American carriers (NW for example), UA has a hub in NRT. From there they serve Asian destinations. Some flights are feeders for the NRT-America flights, other's are flights like LAX-NRT-TPE-NRT-LAX for example.

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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:03 am



SFO
LAX
SIN
HKG
SEA
BKK
SEL
PEK
ORD
JFK
HNL
 
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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:07 am

That's quite a few routes. Whose bigger in Asia UA or Northwest? I know Northwest actually have 3 A320s based in Asia for their feeder routes.
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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:10 am

Beautiful sight...

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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:10 am

I think NWA is even bigger than UA in the Pacific.
 
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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:30 am

I thought UA had a NRT-MNL route?
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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:34 am

NRT-MNL hasn't been around for years--probably five or six. While the flights operated with decent loads, 95% of the passengers were NRSA...!

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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Tue Apr 01, 2003 8:15 am

As far as i know, NW now only flies nonstop between the US and japan, anywhere else u wanna go and u have to stopover or change planes at Narita, Osaka or Kansai. Before the cuts that have just been made, United flew to Tokyo from JFK, ORD, LAX, SEA, SFO and HNL for maybe 8 daily flights. They also flew ORD-PEK and HKG, aswell as SFO-KIX/ICN/PVG/TPE/SEL and HNL-KIX. From Tokyo they flew NRT-SEL/PEK/TPE/SIN/HKG/BKK all of which are continuations of US-Tokyo flights. In terms of nonstop flights between US and Asia, i think United has a better network. Please correct me if i missed anything with Northwest.
 
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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Tue Apr 01, 2003 8:31 am

Guess you can double that with a shot at Victorville..
 
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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Tue Apr 01, 2003 8:35 am

anywhere else u wanna go and u have to stopover or change planes at Narita, Osaka or Kansai.

Osaka = Kansai  Nuts



aswell as SFO-KIX/ICN/PVG/TPE/SEL

dont forget HKG
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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Tue Apr 01, 2003 8:43 am

I was under the impression that KAL is not using Kimpo anymore and were using Incheon for all international.
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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Tue Apr 01, 2003 3:29 pm

Some clarifications: NW and UA are the only two USA-based carriers that operate, and the only two that can operate, hubs at NRT. NW and PA were originally awarded the Fifth Freedom rights; UA purchased PA’s Pacific network in 1985 and has since dismantled/rebuilt most of it. NW is a larger carrier than UA to/from/within Asia – in fact, NW’s the second largest carrier – behind JAL – at NRT. Each carrier has made many changes to its network within the past several years... NW has concentrated on its NRT hub, eliminating odd-ball nonstops (e.g. DTW-PEK/PVG, HKG-MSP/SEA, etc.) as well as pretty much all of its KIX hub; UA has made fewer changes (e.g. eliminating NRT-PVG, SFO-PEK).

Below is a listing of each carrier’s network to/from/within Asia effective this summer. Although it looks like UA operates a larger network, keep in mind that their listing (below) is much more redundant than my NW listing (I didn’t feel like editing it)… and NW’s aircraft are configured to hold more pax than UA’s.

Northwest Airlines:
KIX-DTW (744)
KIX-HNL (742)
KIX-SEA (DC-10)
KIX-TPE (744)

NGO-DTW (744)
NGO-MNL (744)

NRT-BKK (744)
NRT-DTW (twice daily; 744, 744)
NRT-GUM (742)
NRT-HKG (742)
NRT-HNL (twice daily; 742, 742)
NRT-ICN (742)
NRT-JFK (744)
NRT-KHH (320)
NRT-LAX (742)
NRT-MNL (742)
NRT-MSP (eleven frequencies per week; seven 744 and four 742)
NRT-PEK (744)
NRT-PUS (320)
NRT-PVG (744)
NRT-SEA (742)
NRT-SFO (742)
NRT-SIN (742)
NRT-SPN (744)
NRT-TPE (320)


United Airlines:
BKK-NRT (777)

HKG-NRT (744)
HKG-ORD (744)
HKG-SFO (744)
HKG-SIN (744)

ICN-NRT (twice daily; 744 and 777)
ICN-SFO (777)

KIX-HNL (777)
KIX-SFO (777)

NRT-BKK (777)
NRT-HKG (744)
NRT-HNL (777)
NRT-ICN (twice daily; 744, 777)
NRT-JFK (777)
NRT-LAX (777)
NRT-ORD (twice daily; 744, 777)
NRT-PEK (777)
NRT-SEA (777)
NRT-SFO (twice daily; 744, 744)
NRT-SIN (777)
NRT-TPE (777)

PEK-NRT (777)
PEK-ORD (777)

PVG-SFO (744)

SIN-HKG (744)
SIN-NRT (777)

TPE-NRT (777)
TPE-SFO (777)

KEY:
744 – Boeing 747-400
742 – Boeing 747-200
777 – Boeing 777-200
320 – Airbus A320
 
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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Tue Apr 01, 2003 3:36 pm

May be able to double the number of UA aircraft with a picture form VCV, hell you could quadruple it, but not with 7 747-400s in service. I am also rather surprised.

And EAC_732, this belongs just where it is.
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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Tue Apr 01, 2003 3:48 pm

I remember when I first flew in to NRT with JAL I saw more NWA and UA planes than JAL and ANA.Quite shocking I must say.
 
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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Wed Apr 02, 2003 2:53 am

People, NRT has always looked like this for UA and NW... the only reason this looks breathtaking is that the new Satellite 2 is more of a linear pier rather than a circular pier. Previously, you wouldn't see all the UA aircraft lined up... you'd only be able to see a few directly, because the others were all around the satellite.

As for who is the biggest US carrier in the pacific:

Provide the figures please.

Throughout the 1990s, UA has been the largest US carrier across the pacific (when you count the South Pacific routes to Australasia)... while NW has been larger at NRT by a significant amount (slot advantage).

I believe this is still the case.
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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Wed Apr 02, 2003 3:47 am

UA744Flagship,

Read the bottom half of this press release.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030401/cgtu039_1.html

Let us know the accuracy.
 
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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Wed Apr 02, 2003 4:26 am

NW, that is PR spin.

Yes, NW does serve more destinations, have more flights, etc. That is obvious.

BUT--

the true industry measure of airline size is undisputedly RPMs...Revenue Passenger Miles.

We need these statistics to settle.

UPDATE
The accuracy of the claim is INACCURATE.

United is clearly the largest U.S. airline across the pacific. Take a look at my post which clarifies:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1058896/

[Edited 2003-04-01 20:56:51]
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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Wed Apr 02, 2003 6:44 am

It's great to sit up on the viewing deck of Narita's Terminal 1 in the afternoon and watch all the UA 747's and 777's arrive!

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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Wed Apr 02, 2003 2:56 pm

Aw man all those 744s! Surely looks better than the batch I see in VCV.  Nuts
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RE: Amazing Pic From Narita

Wed Apr 02, 2003 11:53 pm


Whenever you fly to NRT term 1, you can see 6 NW 747-200s and 7 UA 747-400s parked by pier. Maybe one or two KE 747s will be there too. And when you see upon runway, another UA one approaching...

And you cannot see that many JL/NH/JD planes just because they are on opposite side: term 2.

Nice picture anyway. I wanna see anybody took shot from that runway - over term 1!!