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ANA Goes B73G

Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:36 pm

All Nippion Airways has placed an order for 45 new planes, apparently mostly Boeing B737-700 with possibly Airbusses included into this order, too.

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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:56 pm

If they go for B737NGs I don't see it very likely that Airbusses may also be ordered. B737NG plus A321 would make sense, but some time ago they already announced the A321 would leave. I guess they will replace A320s and standardise on the B737 in both ANA and Air Nippon fleets.
I'm only wondering about the -700 version which is clearly smaller than the A320.


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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Wed Apr 09, 2003 6:04 pm

 
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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Wed Apr 09, 2003 6:22 pm

I always thought that the A321 was the European equivalent of the 757, but I've read that it's not really the case; but how do the A321 and 739 compare?
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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Wed Apr 09, 2003 7:32 pm

Currently the B739 can only take a maximum of 189 passengers, due to the number of emergency exits. Only airlines with a certain guaranteed C-class size can use it economically compared to the B738. If Boeing goes ahead with the B739X the exit problem would be solved and the capacity could be increased to around 210 or 220. Airlines would get new opportunities, especially the ones who go for A321 as an extension of the B738 capacity (SAS or Royal Air Maroc).

The A321 is an equivalent of the B757, though it lacks a bit of capacity and range. In terms of cargo space, the A321 has an advantage. More and more B757 users which also have A320 or A319 fleets switch to the A321 for commonality reasons. Only the ones who need the extra range (or don't have money for new aircraft) keep the B757. Examples are Iberia, US Airways or British Airways.


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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 1:55 am

Well this is a a shocker,I understook the 320 series had the lead.
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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:00 am

Can anyone confirm this,Boeing has nothing on its website relating to this.

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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:03 am

DJ business news is a reputable source.
 
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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:36 am

More and more B757 users which also have A320 or A319 fleets switch to the A321 for commonality reasons. Only the ones who need the extra range (or don't have money for new aircraft) keep the B757. Examples are Iberia, US Airways or British Airways.


Not necessariily; Northwest has 757's and A319/20 and hasn't ordered A321's. Same for BA. Both have the financial resources to "buy new planes" if they need. Same for Iberia. Money isn't an issue since great deals on new/used are tobe had in this miserable economy, maybe it is because 757 operators are (gasp!!!) happy withthe range, prefiormance and reliability of the 757 ??  Yeah sure
 
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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:40 am

747-451,

BA have 10 A321-200's on order,IB have both the 752 and A321 in service.

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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:53 am

321, 757 etc... maybe they are being logical and using the "right tool for the right job" ?
 
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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 3:38 am

Nice to see the Asian airlines still ordering new aircraft. But the deal isn't signed yet... perhaps ANA is just pulling a Ryanair here, and waiting to 'rape' Airbus with a better offer.
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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 4:14 am

'rape' Airbus with a better offer....

rape, hardly--willing particpant is more likely
 
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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 4:54 am

A report on the newstation here in Seattle just said "Boeing will be ANA's only supplier for single aise aircraft"

 
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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 5:00 am

To all:

It appears that the majority of this order are 73G, but that other 737NG models are included(type unspecified). It would seem that ANA has not yet decided on the exact model mix. No Airbus a/c are included in the order.
I believe Flying-Tiger may be referring to the fact that ANA stated that Airbus will not be excluded from bidding on the upcoming ANA wide-body a/c orders.

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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 5:06 am

747-451

With 'rape' I'm reffering to the statement of M. O Leary from Ryanair, after Boeing announced with pride that they had just won the order of the year...
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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:17 am

in the last issue of Scramble, a dutch aviation magazine,

they said boeing is considering a 737-900x with a flat aft pressure wall.
this way they think they can get 220 pax in a 900x. they will supply the a/c with type 1 exit just after the wings for security reasons.

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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:58 am

Great news for Boeing!!!!!!!
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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:42 am

Awesome news! I've been looking forward to seeing the 737NG in Japan. Great news for Boeing.

Here's All Nippon Airways' press release: http://www.fly-ana.com/about/news/news_releases/details.php?news_ID=154

An estimated order for 45 737NGs including 737-700s and "other variants" will replace A320s, 737-400/-500s with ANA and Air Nippon (ANK). Also, this press release mentions that ANA will simplify their widebody fleet into 747-400s, 777-200/-300, and 767-300s.
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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:58 am

Hello,
I read in "Airlines", a Japanese Magazine that ANA will stop leasing their A321 in the next 3 years. That is why I am not surprised that they are willing to buy/lease B737-900. But I don't really understand why they have a double single aisle fleet: b737-400 (used by ANK) and a320...
I am not a big fan of Boeing... But I think they had to make a choice.
 
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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:11 am

When will the aircraft be delivered?

Great News for Boeing!
 
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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:21 am

ANA would never compromise its integrity and high standards with the airbus.
 
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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:23 am

"ANA would never compromise its integrity and high standards with the airbus."

F&#! yeah, that's what I am talking about!

ANA777Master, ANA already has 'compromised' itself with 320 and 321. But I like your attitude.
 
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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:28 am

N79969- I'm glad to see you are well-versed in inventories here! Of course I realize this, but never would ANA go to airbus for the heavies!
 
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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:32 am

ANA777master,

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RE: ANA Goes B73G

Thu Apr 10, 2003 6:44 pm

Wasn't ANA looking into a possible A380 'domestic'? Also, I believe ANA did order the A340 once, but cancelled the order later. So far your theorie.. ANA777master.

Agreed on the praise 'high standards' from ANA, they're a wonderfull airline... IMO.
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