744's have all Premium seats on the upper deck.
744's have both seats on the Upper Deck for a number of reasons. These include:-
Some passengers prefer to sit on the Upper Deck as they think it's more of a status thing to be upstairs and it's also offers more privacy up there so it's popular with the rich and famous, as there are only 12 seats up there in Upper Class.
On Eastbound TransAtlantic night flights we offer "Snooze Zone" in Upper Class, where the lights are turned out once the a/c is airborne and no service is offered in that section so it gives the passengers chance to get a good nights sleep. The forward part of the upper deck is the best place for this, as it's the quietest part of the a/c and also has the least people wandering through.
There is also the fact that by adding Upper Class seats on the upper deck it gives us more capacity for economy seats on the lower deck.
"Why has Virgin Atlantic divided the Upper Deck into two cabins: PremiumEconomy in the rear and UpperClass towards the front (near the cockpit)? It seems to me that this would only serve to cause confusion amongst passengers, and also a great deal of shuffling between the two cabins. I see this being a bit of a mess when the flight attendants are doing the meal service, as well." ......... Works just fine actually. Upper Class pax can eat whenever they want, so the crew just take the meal to them when they are ready. Premium pax just get served in same was as econ. Just means that Upper pax on Upper deck have to walk down to the bar and beauty therapist should they wish to utilise those services, otherwise don't need to leave that part of cabin as it has its own toilet.
"Are those perhaps just the LGW
based former Alitalia 744s? Those that are only used on holiday destinations, with the poorer IFE and seats? I mean those Upper Class seats in the pictures don't look anything like the flying beds I thought VS
is using these days, in their LHR
based fleet..." ...........Umm nope. The top picture shows the rear of the new Premium seats with the largest IFE screens in the world on the V:Port system (or were when they came out last year). The bottom picture shows the J2000 seats. they don't look like beds as they are in the upright - seat position, but they do descend all the way to the floor.
"When I flew VS
Upper Class I was "downstairs" in the third row...actually seat 7A I think. Much more room down there and no benefit, as far as I could see, being "upstairs" where there is much less room." ..... actually the seat space is the same. There is only the perception of more space as the cabin is wider and higher, the seat and personal space is the same, just on the upper deck you get the handy lockers beside the window seats.
"No, I flew Premium Economy in February last from LHR
, I sat downstairs just opposite the stairs to the upper deck, and two rows down from the plane entrance in row 76A There were about four rows of Premium economy downstairs on either side of the plane - with the galley in the middle." ...... That was only introduced last year, until then all Premium seats used to be on the Upper deck, but due to new disability laws they had to put some on the lower deck so that disabled pax were able to buy them too, also increased the capacity in Premium by an extra 12 seats too (6 on each side on the lower deck). Caused loads of problems though as the check-in system does not show the galley in the middle and also does not state that those seats were downstairs, so the check-in agents were giving pax seats that they thought were either side of the aisle on the upper deck, when in fact were on the lower deck with a galley in between, but most agents seem to be aware of that now.
Hope that answers your questions.
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