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Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Thu Apr 10, 2003 4:21 pm

It seems that Continental Express is going for 100 Embraer ERJ 130s and pushing the orders of 100 of the ERJ 135 regional jet. The announcements were made yesterday, raising to 200 the number of jet aircraft the carrier has ordered from the Brazilian manufacturer since 1996.

The new orders comprise of the all-new 20-seat ERJ 130s and 25 of the smaller, 35-seat ERJ 135s, and include a previously undisclosed order for 25 ERJ 145s that was placed in December 1999.

All the aircraft covered in the new order are due to be delivered by 2003, by the second or third quarter of which Continental Express will be operating an all-jet fleet.

The conception of a family of regional jets for Embraer was based around the Brasilia. The first and second design, the EMB-145 and the EMB-130, were both a stretched jet version of the Brasilia, which had two Allison engines fitted under the wings. These wings were not swept back and had winglets. There was room for 20 to 50 passengers. This aircraft would have differed from the Brasilia by 25 per cent. However, wind tunnel tests proved that this design would not have fulfilled the desired performance. This configuration would have ensured a travel speed of only 740km/h at a range of 2,500km (fully loaded). A pre-set cruise speed of over 800km/h and a range of up to 3,000km were planned.


Image linking was not permitted, so I had to place the image somewhere...

Seeing that I support regional jets (and orders), I do believe that this would be a sparkling deal. What do you think?  Smile

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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Thu Apr 10, 2003 5:02 pm

Odd, I find no announcement of such an order on the CO employee website... That and I would presume the 2003 delivery timeline to be a typo. (Not to mention that CoEx has been all-jet almost a year now). Or perhaps this is a belated April Fool's item......
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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Thu Apr 10, 2003 5:35 pm

How non economical can a 20 seat RJ get? and when compared to turboprops this is not wise IMHO.

I thought April's fool was 10 days ago, GotAirbus? Is it still on for some reason over at ur place?  Nuts
 
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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:18 pm

Ohhh this is nice for EMB-130 and this is really smaller than of EMB-145 aircraft. I believe think that one will be replace from older aircraft. But, it's is all right for me into the EMB-130.
 
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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:52 pm

Obviously an enhanced picture of a 135/145 chopped down.
 
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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Fri Apr 11, 2003 1:40 am

If I were a pax on one of those, I'd feel like I'm riding the short bus.
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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:29 am

You know, I don't think that photoshopped aircraft could fly. Look at how huge those engines are. I'm not even sure it could rest on pavement without falling backwards onto its tail. The center of gravity doesn't even look like it'd be over the wing at all.

Seriously need to move the wing back a few feet, reduce the size of the wing to fuselage fairing, and the engines could be a lot smaller.
 
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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:45 am

News of this purchase setting them up to have an all jet fleet is incorrect. CoEx has had an all jet fleet for quite some time.

Additionally, I don't see how any order for 130s can be filled this year, when the Embraer website shows firm orders that were made well in advance of any CoEx order (which Embraer is not even listing). What is your source for this?
 
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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Fri Apr 11, 2003 4:25 am

This is complete B.S. There is no such thing as the EMB-130, nor has there been a proposal for such an airplane. This guy is yanking your chain. The EMB-135 wasn't even a success for COEX. It costs almost the same to operate yet holds 13 less pax. Never made much sense for the airline.

Nice try.

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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Fri Apr 11, 2003 4:38 am

I heard the order was for 100 ERJ-121SP's not 130's....  Smile



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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Fri Apr 11, 2003 4:41 am

mikephotos,

How you do that with COEX order with EMB-121? This is really smaller than of EMB-130/135. How much passengers was used inside with EMB-121? Please let me know!! Thanks!!

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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Fri Apr 11, 2003 4:45 am

10 pax only on the 121's, sole route for the a/c will be EWR-JFK.

Michael  Smile  Smile
 
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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Fri Apr 11, 2003 4:48 am

WoW!! This is very small group of the EMB-121 route from EWR-JFK for the shortest flight, huh? I'm am very interested of the Continental Express aircraft and this is amazing for the more future airplanes. Well, talk ya later!

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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:10 am

Even though I have VERY VERY serious doubts about what Got Airbus wrote some details: at one point Embraer did indeed study a jet replacement for the EMB-120, I forgot how it was dubbed. But as far as I know this was dropped as already the ERJ-135 is quite heavy and a tripple-shrink of the ERJ-145 would kill off the benefits of a "family plane"; and it would kill off the already very sluggish sales of the ERJ-135 (last year only one ERJ-135 was sold to an airline customer IIRC).

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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:21 am

Hilarious! hahaha!  Big thumbs up EMB-121! it looks cute, Mikephotos! well done! Smile
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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:21 am

Flying-Tiger,

Maybe you're talking about the CBA-123?

hehe. that last one looks like a Xingu on steroids!
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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:22 am

I heard the EMB-121SXR was going to have winglets and be used on the CLE-NRT route to be flown by CoEx.

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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:32 am

Ha Ha Sllevin!!  Laugh out loud but your too late they already operate that route with the EMB-145LXR. And im waiting for CLE-DUS but ihat will probally be reduced to a EMB-120XR  Smile
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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Fri Apr 11, 2003 1:12 pm

Aah the Future-- an EMB101 with capacity for 2 flight crew, one cabin attendent and one passenger, (me_, charging ''me'' 119.00 to fly from Chicago to New York (well that is what ATA is charging). Eidt the ''130'' down to a single set of porthole windows!!
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RE: Continental Generates Interest In New RJ

Fri Apr 11, 2003 1:17 pm

Mikephotos picture proves it all! Small, sleek, and economical!

As a fan of regional jets, I must say -- very very impressive!! I can't stop thanking you for that wonderful pic!!

I can't wait to see the jet in an airport nearest me!!

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