DC10Tony
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Does Virgin Have 777s?

Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:10 pm

This dude in a class said he rode on a Virgin 777, but I said it was either a 747 or an A340, but he INSISTS it was a 777 because of the TVs in the seats. Insane

Anyway, I bet him $5 and told him to bring proof.

So, Virgin doesn't have 777s right? I don't think they do.
 
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RE: Does Virgin Have 777s?

Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:17 pm

Virgins? I don't know what they have but sure wouldn't mind having a look inside?  Big thumbs up

Back to the subj, no Virgin ATLANTIC  Smile-)) has no B777s. they are with the philosophy of "4 engine 4 long haul".  Laugh out loud

 
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RE: Does Virgin Have 777s?

Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:18 pm

Virgin don´t have any 777s and has no outstanding orders. They only operate 747-400s, A340-300s and A340-600s
 
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RE: Does Virgin Have 777s?

Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:18 pm

no.

Virgin have TVs in every seat, every class, even in their older planes.


But no 777s

Check out virginatlantic.com, they've got info about their fleet there. Not a single 777, ever...
 
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RE: Does Virgin Have 777s?

Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:44 pm

Virgin operates a340-300, a340-600, 747-400 and one leased 747-2000
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RE: Does Virgin Have 777s?

Fri Apr 11, 2003 12:16 am

Virgin has no 777's. They operate A340-300's, A340-600's, 747-400's and one leased 747-200. They used to operate more -200's, one -100 and for a while, had A320 and A321's for flights to Athens.

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RE: Does Virgin Have 777s?

Fri Apr 11, 2003 12:30 am


Virgin has no 777's. They operate A340-300's, A340-600's, 747-400's and one leased 747-200. They used to operate more -200's, one -100 and for a while, had A320 and A321's for flights to Athens.

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And, at one point, they did wetlease a 767-300.


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RE: Does Virgin Have 777s?

Fri Apr 11, 2003 12:31 am

Your friend probably was riding one of Continental's 777s under codeshare with Virgin Atlantic.




they are with the philosophy of "4 engine 4 long haul"

Unlike an airline such as TG; but very much like most of the crap Branson spews: the 4engines4longhaul nonsense is utter P.R., and nothing more

Virgin once operated the 763ER transatlantically (lease agreement), and they were among the most interested airlines in the twinjet Sonic Cruiser  Insane
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RE: Does Virgin Have 777s?

Fri Apr 11, 2003 1:03 am

Looks like you won an easy 5$ Tony. I wish people took bets with me like that. No 777s for Virgin
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ConcordeBoy

Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:02 am

ConcordeBoy: the 4engines4longhaul nonsense is utter P.R., and nothing more

Aside from redundancy issues (and the laws of nature haven´t stopped working, yet) it merely states that Virgin uses quads for long haul routes. It might sound silly - at least until the first time an ETOPS twin has to ditch when its second engine decides to quit as well...


ConcordeBoy: Virgin once operated the 763ER transatlantically (lease agreement), and they were among the most interested airlines in the twinjet Sonic Cruiser

You mean Branson´s famous quote "...I intend to order three"?
No wonder Boeing had to scrap their SC plans if nobody wanted more than Branson.  Insane
 
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RE: Does Virgin Have 777s?

Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:19 am

Virgin doesn't own a single 777 nor has any 777 in order.
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RE: Does Virgin Have 777s?

Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:22 am

Looks like you got $5 Tony!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: Does Virgin Have 777s?

Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:26 am

I once got in to an argument with a coworker abour a smiliar situation, he claimed on his Singapore Arlines flight from LAX to Singapore and back....he took 5 engined jet!!!!......2 on each side and one on the tail section.......and it had two decks for passengers...(nothing out of the ordinary here) and bunk beds for the passengers in the lower cargo hold.

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RE: Does Virgin Have 777s?

Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:55 am

Aside from redundancy issues (and the laws of nature haven´t stopped working, yet) it merely states that Virgin uses quads for long haul routes

You're (not surprisingly) failing to grasp the point of the statement: Branson, during the Farnborough Airshow, attempted to lull his audience into believing that VS would never operate a twinjet on longhaul flights... when in fact VS has, and obviously (made apparent due to its enthusiasm for the proposed S.C.) would do so again.





It might sound silly - at least until the first time an ETOPS twin has to ditch when its second engine decides to quit as well

....or how about when a trijet fries to a crisp 15 minutes away from land due to faulty wiring and inadequate [if any] fire suppression? Quite sad really, and a far cry from 90-207minutes.... dont you think?  Insane

No wonder that the FAA is considering placing ETOPS specifications on all aircraft!




You mean Branson´s famous quote "...I intend to order three"?

Nah, I was thinking more along the lines of his quote "if they can really do what they say they can, we'll be the first to order.... it will totally alter how we view the market!

Interesting to note that this statement was duplicated almost verbatim by Gordon Bethune and Donald Carty as well.... but you heard it forst from Virgin and good ol' DICKIE BRANSON  Laugh out loud
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RE: Does Virgin Have 777s?

Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:25 am

....or how about when a trijet fries to a crisp 15 minutes away from land due to faulty wiring and inadequate [if any] fire suppression? Quite sad really, and a far cry from 90-207minutes.... dont you think?

That has nothing to do with it being a trijet. That accident could have happened to a 4-engine, or a 2 engined aircraft.

All he's saying is if you lose an engine on a quadjet, you've got 3 others. While if you lose an engine on a twin, you've only got 1 engine.

Now, of course jet engines have become much more reliable and it's less of an issue (that's why twins are allowed to fly over oceans). However, all he's implying that if you've got a quadjet, you've still got 3 engines which is better than 1. You can't deny that.

Even the A340-300 which is an underpowered aircraft can lose 3 of it's 4 engines and that 1 35,000lb. of thrust CFM56-5C engine is sufficient to keep it in the air. So you essentially have 3 back-ups on a quad.

As for me, it doesn't matter since airliners have (whether twins or quads) have becoming extremely safe. If I'm gonna die in a plane crash, that's my fate and I'll accept it.

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ConcordeBoy

Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:42 am

ConcordeBoy: You're (not surprisingly) failing to grasp the point of the statement:

Well, I disagree with your opinion, so I must be completely stupid, of course!  Nuts


ConcordeBoy: Branson, during the Farnborough Airshow, attempted to lull his audience into believing that VS would never operate a twinjet on longhaul flights... when in fact VS has, and obviously (made apparent due to its enthusiasm for the proposed S.C.) would do so again.

You´re making stronger assumptions than the evidence seems to support...


ConcordeBoy: ....or how about when a trijet fries to a crisp 15 minutes away from land due to faulty wiring and inadequate [if any] fire suppression? Quite sad really, and a far cry from 90-207minutes.... dont you think?

It´s useless to compare outdated planes built to lower standards with current ETOPS-certified ones.

In a comparison between an A340-600, designed, built, equipped and operated to the same standards as a 777, there´s only one major difference in safety: After the second engine shutdown, only the A340 will have a chance to reach an airport beyond gliding distance.


ConcordeBoy: Nah, I was thinking more along the lines of his quote "if they can really do what they say they can, we'll be the first to order.... it will totally alter how we view the market!

The "if" being the operative word, as it turned out.
 
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RE: Does Virgin Have 777s?

Fri Apr 11, 2003 10:16 am

Yeah, I knew Virgin didn't have 777s, I just wanted to confirm it with everyone here.

I just told him that he was probably on a 747, because they're almost the same size, but he was so sure it was a 777 that he made a complete ass of himself trying to sound like he knew something.

I'll have to see if this clown will pay me when Monday comes. Then again, watching him make a fool out of himself was enough pay for me.  Smile
 
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RE: Does Virgin Have 777s?

Fri Apr 11, 2003 7:06 pm

Tony, did you rule out a code-share flight? Like Concordeboy mentioned earlier? Could have been one of their 777's.

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