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AUA Group Fleet Mess

Thu Apr 17, 2003 11:58 am

I am planning a trip with Austrian Airlines. As I was looking at their web site I noticed what an incredible mix of fleet they operate. This must give them a huge operating cost penalty. Here is what I found out:

2x A340-300, 2x A340-200 and 4x A330-200 (Austrian)
3x B777-200, 2x B767-300 (Lauda Air) and 3x B767-300 of Lauda Air Italy

6x A321, 8x A320, 5x MD82/83, 4x MD87 (Austrian)
3x B737-800, 2x B737-700, 2x B737-600 (Lauda Air)
2x B737-400, 1x B737-300 (Lauda Air)

6x F70 (Austrian, 75pax), 6x F70 (Tyrolean, 80pax)
12x CRJ (Tyrolean), 6x CRJ (Lauda Air)
3x ERJ-145 (former Rheintalflug now operated by Tyrolean)

2x Dash 8-200, 10x Dash 8-Q300, 5x Dash 8-Q400 (Tyrolean)

This gives 12 types of a/c with 22 different variants. Name another (not so big) airline group which has so many of them.

Anyone knows what is the status of Air Alps ? That would add FD-328 to the lot. But I think they are not considered Austrian Airlines Group.

Anyway, I thought someone from Austria might know if they have plans to consolidate the operations under one brand name or are they happy with the Austrian-Lauda-Tyrolean division ?

I just posted a trip report about a couple of Tyrolean Dash 8s flights - an overall positive experience. I am now looking forward to my first flight on Austrian long-haul fleet, I heard their 330/340s have nose cameras installed.
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RE: AUA Group Fleet Mess

Thu Apr 17, 2003 3:28 pm

Air Alps doesn't belong to the Austrian Group. Last year it was planned to retire the MD-80's fast, but now I have heard some of them (the MD-87?) will stay until 2006...and they recently changed a 772 order to 2 738 orders!!!
I don't know what they are planning.....
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RE: AUA Group Fleet Mess

Thu Apr 17, 2003 4:50 pm

From what I have heard, the ERJ's of Rheintalflug are on the way out, so the regional fleet will onyl consist of three families:

- DH8
- F70

...which makes more sense from an operational standpoint.

As 717fan has stated, the M80's are on their way out, as are most of the 340's. I have read on another board that all but one (?) of the 340's are going to be either replaced by 330's or not replaced at all.

The 777 is likely to stay since its cargo capacity is very appreaciated on the routes the Boeings are currently flown.

Thus in the long run, the fleet looks more like

AUA Mainline
A330/ A340

Lauda Air
B767 or A330

AUA Regional

There are strong considerations within AUA to abandon most if not all long-haul routes in the mid to longterm and reroute the traffic via Star Alliance hubs. Please don't flame me for this, I am not making this up or just repeat hearsay. This information comes from a source within AUA, whom we have interviewed for a project.
Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
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RE: AUA Group Fleet Mess

Thu Apr 17, 2003 5:41 pm

There is an order for 6 A319 instead of A320 and 3 738 instead of 1 772. The F70 may go to Tyrolean in fall. Btw. it´s not easy to sell out planes these days. And if OS wouldn´t have it´s extraordinary structures constantly creating new difficulties within the company.....but this is another cup of tea.
Regards Rickster
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RE: AUA Group Fleet Mess

Thu Apr 17, 2003 6:43 pm

Lauda skipped their last 777 on order and the rumours of the others going as well never stopped. They´re an oddball here anyway.

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