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Hawaiian And Aloha

Mon Nov 29, 1999 10:31 am

I was wondering, What Is Hawaiian and Aloha on intra hawaii flights in terms of service? meals or snacks? and who is better? Also, how is Hawaiian on DC-10 flights?
 
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RE: Hawaiian And Aloha

Mon Nov 29, 1999 12:33 pm

I flew Hawaiin DC10 from Honolulu to LAX, and for most of the flight I was wondering if the plane was actually going to make the distance!

The interior seemed rather old, and a musty smell.

As far as food goes, I was served some fresh tropical juice and some fruit salad, which was very nice.

Thumbs up for food, thumbs down for equipment!

NEver flown Aloha, although I flew Island air which was almost the same, D8, only a 15 minute flight, so they didnt serve anything
 
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RE: Hawaiian And Aloha

Mon Nov 29, 1999 1:01 pm

I flew Aloha 2 times this summer. I thought we we're gonna have another Aloha 243. There weren't any clouds, but it was rocking all over like we we're in a hurricane. I was waiting for the plane to crack in half right down the middle. The second flight was better though, didn't seem as loud or dirty. All they served was a small tropical drink, and both flights we're only 20 min long (HNL-OGG.....OGG-HNL).
 
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RE: Hawaiian And Aloha

Mon Nov 29, 1999 1:12 pm

I also took Aloha HNL-OGG-HNL - no complaints. It's a bus service and that's pretty much what you get - no seat assignment, free soda. Frequent schedule, so if you miss one or show up early, you can pretty much get right on the plane. It's ideal for the inter-island service. Shucks I may have to go back to fly a 732 one more time!!!
 
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RE: Hawaiian And Aloha

Mon Nov 29, 1999 1:43 pm

I have flown on Hawaiian's DC-10s several times and they were all immaculate. The interiors were new. They were formerly with American, but there was no sign of American on the inside. They even smelled good.
For interisland flights, I prefer Hawaiian's DC-9s to Aloha's 737s. There is more leg room and the interior is more attractive.

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RE: Hawaiian And Aloha

Mon Nov 29, 1999 2:39 pm

I second L1011's comments... My girlfriend and I took Hawaiian from PDX-HNL and back in February. It was a wonderful flight, very friendly service, and the plane seemed nice enough to me. Hopefully I'll be flying one of those someday...  
 
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RE: Hawaiian And Aloha

Mon Nov 29, 1999 5:35 pm

I flew on Hawaiian from HNL to PDX (DC-10-10) and I had a wonderful flight. The plane was like new inside and very clean. I know they are old planes, but I could not tell from the inside.
The only thing I didn't like was paying for the headphones, because I am spoiled and not used to having to do that.
I have flown on aloha and hawaiian to Maui and I have to say that I prefer Hawaiian, simply because of the equipment (DC-9).
 
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RE: Hawaiian And Aloha

Wed Dec 01, 1999 4:42 pm

Both airlines used to have pretty interesting interisland fleets:

HAL: DC-9-10
DC-9-30
DC-9-50
MD-80
DASH-7

Aloha: 737-200/300/400

They've now standardized and only fly the DC-9-50 (Hawaiian) and 737-200 (Aloha). I can't wait till Hawaiian takes delivery of their 717's. Aloha will have to do something about its old planes soon.

The Hawaiian DC-10's are comfortable-but aging. Hopefully they will be replaced soon, probably by 767's. However old the equipment is, the service is excellent. Aloha will use brand new 737-700's for Honolulu-Oakland service next year. Hopefully the service will be as good as Aloha is known for.
 
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RE: Hawaiian And Aloha

Wed Dec 01, 1999 6:28 pm

Hawaiian and Aloha are very similar, but I prefer Hawaiian. The DC-9 seats seem a bit wider than the 737's, and they have more leg room (although Aloha has supposedly reconfigured so that they have more legroom than they used to, I haven't flown them since this change was made). Flights are very short, and I suspect the fasten seat belt sign is rarely turned off in flight. I often fly HNL-ITO, the longest route with service (LIH-ITO would be longer but neither airline flies it nonstop) and I can't recall the fasten seat belt sign ever being turned off. Of course, that doesn't stop passengers from getting up anyway.

Hawaiian serves tropical juice, with beer and wine available for purchase. From what I remember, Aloha serves Coke and Diet Coke, though I've been told they have juice as well. Both serve coffee on morning flights. Hawaiian has additional snacks for first class passengers, not sure about Aloha.

Hawaiian's DC-10 flights are quite good. The meal service overall is pretty good, but I have found that flight 4, the overnight "red-eye" HNL-LAX flight, tends to be a bit disappointing. On other flights I have found that the meals have been very good, especially for an airline meal. The interiors are quite nice.

If you look closely you can find a few signs of AA, the most obvious being the bare metal fuselage. On one aircraft, I could see the remains of AA's "LuxuryLiner" titles. Also, the flight attendant cabin phones have a metal plate with the AA logo on them. I assume that the new DC-10-30 from Continental wouldn't have traces of AA, but probably CO instead.

I don't hestate to recommend Hawaiian for their DC-10 and interisland flights. But if your primary frequent flier program is United Mileage Plus, that would be good enough reason to go with Aloha instead. Hawaiian participates in Continental OnePass, Northwest WorldPerks, and American AAdvantage. Both also have their own frequent flier programs.
 
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RE: Hawaiian And Aloha

Wed Dec 01, 1999 7:45 pm

In 1994 my family holidayed in Maui. We flew Upper Deck BA 747-400 (economy) from Heathrow to LA. When we switched terminals at LAX to pick up our next leg via Hawaiian - we were (in comparison to the BA plane) nervous when we saw the tired Hawaiian DC-10 resting limply outside our gate to Honalulu. It looked seriously frail, almost as if its wings were drooping at their ends! I love flying and do not get nervous, but this was the only plane that I have ever felt uncomfortable on. It was clear that it had been a pass-on from AA. It was grubby inside and the flight attendants looked as if they had worked on that very plane since it was new! As we took off I was convinced that I saw smoke coming out of one of the engines - suspect (now that I am better informed) that it was condensation. We were flying mid evening so nothing could be seen outside, which didn't help. The service, as far as I can remember was good and very relaxed in comparison with BA - which isn't something that is always welcome - how relaxed should an airline be? We arrived safely needless to say at Honalulu ready to take our next Hawaiian flight the next morning to Maui. The relaxed atmosphere continued there - no boarding pass, sit where you like - 1 juice drink - a 10 minute flight (DC-9) - no sooner were we in the air were we coming back down - can't remember whether the seat belt sign was ever switched off.

The return from Maui was more memorable - Maui airport was packed with people wanting to get to Honalulu - so much so that the airline staff were putting people on different planes to their bags! Again no boarding pass/sit where you like. As we came in to land at Honalulu over the sea the pilot did an amazing sharp right hand turn almost directly onto the runway - he was flying that plane as if it were a Cessna. I expect that if these guys are going back and forth all day on 10 minute flights that they try to make it more interesting for themselves. I was impressed with their skill.

Again another ancient DC-10 back to LAX - not as anxious as the previous, but nevertheless different. Back to Blighty on a very stiff upper lipped BA Jumbo.

Good luck - give it a whirl.

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