zrs70
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Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 3:41 am

My credo is this: "If I am for myself only, what am I?" That being said, here is my list:

1) Use a cell phone in a place where your conversation will be private
2) Don't read a paper when cabin crew is doing the safety demo.
3) If you are going to read, hold the paper low enough so that the people around you can see the demo.
4) Hold doors for others
5) Say "thank you" to those who got you there
6) If you are going to recline, look behind you first, and be gentle
7) Have your documents ready before you get to the front of the line
8) No bare feet
9) No feet on bulkhead walls
10) Smiles go a long way
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 3:47 am

1) sit down
2) shut up
3) behave
4) visit the cockpit when the flight lands
Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
 
Greg
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 4:14 am

Now we need 'code of conduct' for air travel?
Gimme a break. Get me there safely..on time....and get me a diet-Coke.
The greater you lower your expectations....the less dissapointed you'll be.

A couple of corrections:

--I use a cell phone where the reception is best....everyone does...so it's easy to see where NOT to sit in the terminal. (I'm convinced that cell phones only bother people because they cannot hear BOTH sides of the conversation).
--I usually read legal briefs when I get onboard so I can store them later. I doubt this interferes with the safety demo...
--My incredibly expensive ticket is 'thanks' enough....I am not a 'guest' of the airline...I am a PAYING CUSTOMER (and yes, treat me like one).

So basically, I guess I'm probably closer to Jhooper..than Zrs
 
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 4:23 am

Greg, ".I am not a 'guest' of the airline...I am a PAYING CUSTOMER ...."

Zrs70's "code of conduct" seems mainly for the benefit of other passengers, not just the airline crew.

I always try to be considerate toward my fellow travelers, even to the crew.

Pete
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zrs70
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 4:35 am

Greg:

My advice is directed primarily toward other passengers. We share space.
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Greg
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 4:57 am

I fully understand what you were saying. I just have a modified opionion. I am not advocating being rude or any such thing.

The nicest thing you can do to any other traveler is leave them alone--this essentially says: "I respect your privacy and space"
Nothing is worse than some busybody that wants to strike up a conversation.

But thank you for the response. Possibly my post was a bit stoic.
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 7:33 am

Respect the people around you.

I can't stand it when some ignorant guy decides to recline his seat all the way back. If he wants to recline a little bit, fine, go ahead.

Disgruntled passengers who are in terrible moods because they didn't get their free upgrade or they didn't get the full can and just b*tch at everything

Most importantly, not paying attention to the safety demo. Yeah, I probably have it memorized by now. I still listen to it though. Why? It can save my life.

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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 7:39 am

You forgot:
-Wipe the turbulence piss off of the toilet
-Accept that others may be sick of hearing you talk
-Contain your brats, if you have them
-Don't defecate on the service cart

 
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 7:47 am

-curb the flatulence
-don't over do it with perfume or cologne (see use soap below)
-don't suff up the toilet, ladies.
-use soap, mouthwash and shampoo.


[Edited 2003-04-26 01:07:48]
 
sllevin
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 8:43 am

I can't stand it when some ignorant guy decides to recline his seat all the way back.

If you don't want people reclining back so close to you, get a seat up front. You know beforehand the seats recline, and people have the right to recline their seat to be comfortable.

I try not to be rude during the safety demo, but let's face it, when you have flown 20+ legs per month, you've got it down pat.

Steve
 
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 10:13 am

Sllevin:

I fly about 150K/ year. I know the demo in my sleep. That doesn't mean the guy behind me knows it. And if I am reading during the PA, what kind of example does that set?
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 10:29 am

I wouldn't hold something to obstruct anyone's view, but I'm not there to set an example. This isn't class. It's a method of transportation.

And up front, it's typically all frequent flyers, who know the drill as well as I do.

I find the greatest annoyance to be people who somehow think they should set standards on behaviour. My recommendation is that they go charter a plane and be King on that. We don't need them bugging the rest of us.

Steve
 
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 10:39 am


Spill food in the magazine rack in front of your seat, for the next flight! steal the ashtrays - they wont be needing them if its a non-smoking sector (flight)
put crackers and peanuts inside the seats! with some cutlery cut the seats! use the newspapers and magazines as toilet papers and kindly give it back to the F/A when the flight lands or tuck it into the seat rack!

the most low off all! steal the life preserve jacket under your seat!
 
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 11:02 am

I like the suggestion of quickly slamming your seat all the way back when the jerk behind you has just received his dinner/lunch. I approve of this behavior.
 
AroundTheWorld
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 1:59 pm

I posted this in the "jerk put his bag in my leg room and now I'm mad" topic however figured it'd be better off in this one...so here goes...

I had an incident on an international flight where the passenger behind me gave a couple good blows to the back of my seat when I tried to lean it back (after the meal was over) - she then yelled "keep it FORWARD" in this nasty foreign accent. After trying several times to lean back even a little bit at a time and being met by more blows to the back I figured I'd try again when she went to sleep. She made herself comfortable and managed to shove her foot in the area between the seat and the window and onto my armrest! That prompted me to lean my seat back again effectively trapping her foot. She started screaming and her large boyfriend threatened to "bash my fscking head in". I released her foot and a couple flight attendants came to find out what all the commotion was about....after I explained the situation they moved the couple behind me to some open seats at the rear of the plane.
In another similar incident a VERY large gentleman sitting next to me wanted me to raise the armrest as he literally couldn't fit without squeezing into his seat. I refused and an argument ensued. He eventually called a flight attendant and demanded he be moved to first class cause of the "rude passenger" who wouldn't let him raise the armrest. They moved me to first class instead.
Both these I suppose are similar examples where passengers took up others "space" in "buffer zones". How would you have handled these situations? Should I have kept my seat forward? Should I have let him...expand into my seat?
 
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 2:28 pm


Don't read a paper when cabin crew is doing the safety demo.

Let me say this: after seeing the same demo countless times over, whats the bloody point of seeing it again?

I prefer to take a look at the safety card adn i think thats enough.

-Roy
 
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 7:06 pm

All of you wankers that don't pay attention to the safety-demo:
It is an OBLIGATION to pay attention to the demo. If you refuse to listen, the crew has the right to throw you off. If you do not know what to do, where to go to in case of an emergency evacuation, you will not only endanger your life, but also that of the other pax. and crew. If you don't want to pay attention to the cabin-crew, then take the bus.

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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 8:01 pm

A330

Oh please...we have all seen the safety demo a thousand times. I could do it in my sleep. What are the chances of the plane crashing and surviving or landing in the middle fo the Pacific and getting to HNL or PPt in life raft!!!!!!!!!

That is a joke .......an obligation to pay attention to the safety demo!!!!!!!!
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sat Apr 26, 2003 8:31 pm

Zrs70 I agree 100% with you!!! Great you brought up this topic!
some additions

- "Please" and "thanks" to a flight attendant never is a wrong gesture!
- Dress accordingly, (as you go out for dinner) ... no muscle shirts, no flip-flops...
- Don't make a complete mess with your meal!

Mario
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sun Apr 27, 2003 12:55 am

767er,

Are you a pilot then? Obviously not, because otherwise you would agree with me.
You WILL NOT be prepared for an evacuation if you haven't revised the procedure before the flight. I can guarantee that to you. Or do you think that these things haven't been tested in simulations?!
Poor sod, So full of it, thinking you are king of the plane because you fly a couple of times in a year.
It IS a legal requirement, the PIC (Pilot in Command) must ENSURE that all passengers are familiar with the safety briefing and procedures. If not, he is not legal. So if you refuse to put down your bloody paper or documents, he has the right to deplane you. Next time, take the ship to Asia, or wait a minute, there also, it is a legal requirement for ALL passengers to participate in the lifeboat drill during the first 24 hours of the voyage...

Planes don't normally crash during cruise but during Take-off and landing. And contrary to popular belief, most of them ARE surviveable if people would have paid attention to the crew before the flight. FACT.

A330
(flown the A319/20/21 flies A330 and A340)
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sun Apr 27, 2003 4:28 am

Oh please...we have all seen the safety demo a thousand times. I could do it in my sleep.

That's exactly the problem. It's always the smart-arses who treat the safety demo like a scratched record who end up scrabbling for the safety card if the balloon goes up.

It's not about remembering the words. It's about taking the time to check how particular doors open, whether there's a separate slide inflator, making a solid mental note of where the nearest exit is (God, have I heard some stories on that little gem), spending a few seconds counting how many seat rows there are between you and the door (did you think about that one?), and refreshing yourself generally about the procedure.

I once sat through a frighteningly realistic decompression situation at the SAS Academy. It wasn't until afterwards that I realised that my mask had been loose - because in all the confusion I'd clean forgotten that little instruction about tightening it. And I'm someone who studies air accidents for a living, and has seen the safety demo a zillion times.

When I fly, I always make the effort to listen to the drill. Not just as a matter of courtesy - one day that extra bit of preparation might save my life.

Incidentally, how many of you walk through the emergency evacuation route when you check into a hotel? Ever looked up how many people die in hotel fires every year because they don't know the way out? Same difference.
 
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sun Apr 27, 2003 5:07 am

Just out of interest, I have seen cabin crew on several EasyJet flights tell specific passengers in the cabin to "please do not talk; listen to the safety demo" if they have been talking throughout. This usually results in a red faced passenger and a smirk from me!  Smile
 
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sun Apr 27, 2003 5:34 am

Heres the Non-rev view of flying

1. Pray that there is a first class seat left
2. Always the last on
3. Treat the flight crew nice because after all you both work for the same company
4. Pleases and thank you's
5. DRESS NICE! (thats a pet peeve of mine)
6. Dont make the flight crew go nuts because your not even paying for you seat
7. Visit Cockpit apon landing

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deltairlines
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sun Apr 27, 2003 6:55 am

When flying, I just want quiet. I flew this last week, and I think I said I maximum total of 10 words to the passengers sitting next to me on three flights (and this was a simple Excuse me to go to the lav and a thank you for their moving). I don't really listen to the safety announcements because I know all that crap. I know where the emergency exits are, I know how to put my seatbelt on, I know how to put on an oxygen mask, I know that there is lighting along the aisle(s), with white lights leading to red lights (exits), I know there is a life vest under my seat, I know that my seat is a flotation device, etc. Why listen to it again when I can watch various aircraft movements while taxiing. That is much more intriguing to me.

I also don't like these ripped clothes people. I always wear a golf shirt and slacks minimum, with sneakers (if on a leisure trip) or dress shoes (if on business). I always try and look mildly professional (the only reason I wear sneakers is that I have the metal support rods in my dress shoes which set off the alarms and cause a delay to me; or I have to use the paper flip-flops, which I don't like).

I normally poke my head in the deck before or after flight for no more than 3 minutes. I try to go prior to flight, where I try to get briefed on the flight (ie route, altitude, etc.). Never been bothered with this request.

When using my cell phone, I too go for the reception. You can't really conduct business in a place where there is so much static that you hear every 5 words on the other end of the line. At the airport, I often will use one of the pay-phone booths to make a call so I don't disturb people, but I have the right to make a cell phone call while in the terminal, and while on the aircraft provided that the door is open. I would rather get my business done at this time than pay $10/minute while in the air.

Jeff
 
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sun Apr 27, 2003 7:03 am

Oh please...we have all seen the safety demo a thousand times. I could do it in my sleep.

Okay, all you guys, I recall an accident int he UK back in the 80's involving a 737 where many people were killed needlessly; and one of the points made is that people opened doors they shouldn't have because of smoke and flame and others didn't know how to maipulate the other doors and safety features either. So all of us million milers have heard the drill and know where the exits are from a 747 to an 880, but that doesn't mean the pax in the seats near us know that as well. So paper readers and others who feel they are too imporatnat for such an intrusion etc give up the few minutes it takes to be quite during the briefing, since all our lives may depend on it...  Pissed
 
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:22 am

I suppose that in my profession, as I spend a lot of time giving speeches, I can empathise with the FA when people pay no attention. Imagine doing a demo in front of a group who refuses to make eye contact!
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deltairlines
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:40 am

I do let the others watch the briefing...I normally read a magazine, and when I fly, I always fold the paper twice (in a fold akin to the way you purchase a paper), so that it does not intrude on my seatmate(s). However, I still maintain that, since I have heard the speech a million and one times, that I know how to safely evacuate the aircraft for myself.

Jeff
 
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sun Apr 27, 2003 11:23 am

This is the nicest post ever. We need more people like Zrs70 in the world. I think if more people thought the same way he does air travel could really become nice again.

Airliners have become such flying buses. I was returning from Paris the other day and had a male F/C PAX stand in the aisle and shave with an electric razor. I was already embarassed for him when he emptied the shaved whiskers onto our carpet. Right in front of 27 other PAX!!! When he pulled out his deodorant I had all I could stomach and I told him to take it to the lav. How embarassing is that? I had to tell a grown man to groom himself out of the view of ladies. Jeez!

That kind of thing happens a lot, but I try to keep it in perspective. There are still a lot of polite, mannered, classy people (like Zrs70) on our flights who don't feel as though they're on a private jet. They realize its a shared cabin and act accordingly. And sometimes they even treat the flight attendnats as, get ready for a big shock,....human beings! I actually had a pretty good crowd coming back from LHR to JFK today. There was an interuption in service due to a medical emergency I had to take care of in B/C. When I returned (and apologized for the delay) everyone was really cool about it. See, people like that restore my faith in humanity.
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sun Apr 27, 2003 11:47 am

Kevi747

1/Check in early if you want your favourite seat. Look presentable - don’t dress as if you were going to the beach. Be nice to the check in staff. Don’t bother asking for an upgrade.

2/Give the FAs your warmest smile & cheeriest hello when you board and also when going down the aisle. Eye contact is equally important.

3/ Don’t expect the FA to help you stow you hand luggage in the over head lockers unless you are elderly or infirm. If you can’t lift it, then that’s’ your fault for packing too much!!!

4/Go to the loo before you settle in your seat and don’t wait until the seat belt sign goes on.

5/Pray you don’t get a dickhead sitting next to you.

6/When the drinks trolley comes around ask, nicely, for two drink rather than one to save the FA coming back.

7/Don’t use the call button unless it’s an emergency. If you need anything go to the galley yourself. You will enjoy the exercise.

8/Chat to the FAs when you go to the galley but not when they are busy. I always ask them stuff like their favourite aircraft, cities, etc

9/If the galley is unattended don’t help yourself to the trolleys for a drink or nibbles. Ask first, its good manners!!!!!

10/If the meal is awful, make a joke of it to the FA. They usually do as well. Lets face it, they didn’t cook it.

11/For goodness sake don’t take your seat belt off until the sign says so.

12/Never abuse or be rude to the Fas. They have a job to do and are there for you!!!!!!!

That’s my 20cents worth.

Brent

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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sun Apr 27, 2003 11:54 am

I like your list too, 767er!! I'll be sure to follow those rules next Saturday when I fly Qantas to Aukland.

See ya
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sun Apr 27, 2003 1:46 pm

I have to admit that I wish the traveling public where more courteous today. Remember that courtesy was invented to keep us from killing one another when we piss someone off.

Most often what the agents and crew are asking passengers to do will help everyone.

1) Please have you ID (if the airport still needs it) and your boarding pass ready. As an agent I can tell you that we really don't care how long it takes you to board because some dope goes to the gate and has to fish everything out. I bat the guy behind him does.

2) LISTEN to announcements. If its in the plane or at the gate announcements are not made so the agent can hear themselves talk. We are trying to communicate information that YOU may desperately need. If the P/A is on shut up and listen.

3) Wait for your row to be called for boarding. Boarding goes a lot smoother and with less stress for the passengers if they just sit tight and allow a line to form for boarding. Why people insist on crowding around the door, like the overhead space is more precious than gold is beyond me. Passengers get on quicker and easier if they listen to the professionals. You may fly 100k a year but I guarantee you I board more airplanes than you do. You may board up to 4 times a day if there are connections there and back. I board planes 10 times a day.

4) DO NOT PUT YOUR BOARDING PASS IN YOUR MOUTH, and expect me to touch it.

5) Dress nicely. Dress comfortably but nicely. You are sharing a confined space for several hours with total strangers who do not care that:

Your with Stupid
Just got over athletes foot
Have rippling biceps
or breast implants
your business deal is on or off.

6) keep you conversation on the airplane to a polite level.
Others may be trying to work, sleep, study or read, and voices carry in a tube.

7) pay attention to other traveler. Your life and the lives of others may depend on it.

8) Please, Please recline slowly and smoothly. You would expect the same from the person in front of you. It gives me great pleasure to say I saw poetic justice after an ignorant man slammed his seat back into the knees of the poor guy behind him the guy in front of him did the same this time spilling his drink into his lap. My only wish is that you could slap those two morons in the back of the head for their rudeness to fellow travelers.

Again courtesy was designed to keep knights from killing one another when they stepped on one another's toes. That's why court is the root word. Lets try to devolve to barbarism on the airplane.
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sun Apr 27, 2003 2:20 pm

this topic is great, a real breath of fresh air...
as for the safety demo, i too could most likely recite it in my sleep, but i nearly always watch it. the few times i haven't, i have usually been too tired to hold my eyes open.

if i'm in the mood for it, i don't mind a chatty seatmate, but what does annoy me are the people who cannot take a hint that i'm not in the mood to talk. as for in flight conversation, please keep it quiet - the entire cabin does not need to hear about the hot person you hooked up with last night, or the rash you break out in when you eat shrimp (two conversations i've had to hear at 7am...ugh).

and as to the dressing appropriately, i always try to - usually khakis, sometimes nice jeans (not ripped, baggy, too tight, etc), a nice shirt...i do wear sandals, but they're nice leather ones...i wear them because they're comfortable walking shoes, esp. if i'm connecting in ATL or something.

lovely topic  Smile
 
AroundTheWorld
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sun Apr 27, 2003 3:11 pm

I at least make an effort to make it look like I'm half interested in the safety demo, if anything out of respect to the person giving it. On a NW flight in F class the flight attendant gave a quiz following the briefing and the prizes were snacks. I've also seen quite some time ago a passenger do the inflight briefing. That was a stitch - gotta question the legality of it, but it was funny as hell.
Its hard to make a list of how someone should act on a plane...but could be summed up by saying you should act how you'd like to see others act. I've had to put up with everything from jerks in my post a bit up in this topic to people eating a bucket of fried chicken with lapchildren. I somehow managed to get stuck in the middle seat between these two wonderful individuals who refused to trade me and passed the chicken over me. Its common sense folks...how would you want to be treated? How would you feel if you were in X passenger's or Y attendant's shoes? Sad thing is some people just don't give a crap. That attitude can even be seen in some post on this and other topics. Those post with the "I paid my money now I can act like a complete imbecile if I want to." Those people wanna make me puke.
 
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sun Apr 27, 2003 3:33 pm

As far as paying attention to the safety demo, you folks say you've heard it a hundred times. You can do it in your sleep. Well I do it for a living. I DO have it memorized. I CAN do it in my sleep. And still, when I fly as a passenger, I pay attention. I think it's just courteous. We can see the passengers who are not paying attention or who choose to read during the demo. It's less than satisfying. And as far as talking during the demo, if you're seated next to where the F/A is doing the demo, one word: Don't talk. I have actually had to ask people to be quiet during they demo. I couldn't hear the announcement. You may not what to listen, but I do.

As far as listening to announcements. That is another thing. I can't tell you how many times I have said something or the Flight Deck has said something, only to have a passenger ask the exact same question moments later. It is frustrating.

Don't get me wrong. I love my job, my co-workers, my airline and my passengers. I have more great passengers than not, but I agree that there needs to be a little courtesy inflight. It is only right.
 
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sun Apr 27, 2003 4:35 pm

Re: Ticket in mouth --- I often have items in both hands when boarding so I put my ready-to-go paperwork in my shirt pocket and just tell agent to take it from there...they have smiled and done do...that way, they know it's not been where it shouldn't have been...and they have fun when I bend over so they can reach it! Since I'm 6'-9" !
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:38 pm

My biggest pet peeves involve the smells. Some people just don't have good hygiene practices and they simply stink. Somebody mentioned passing KFC chicken around on a plane, that's pretty disgusting to me- I like KFC, but the last place I would want to eat greasy fried chicken is on a plane...ugh. The smell factor is especially high with McDonalds and other fast foods that people carry-on. Once sat next to a lady who packed a tuna salad sandwich. She looked like she enjoyed her sandwich, but those around her didn't look too happy, myself included.

-steede
 
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Mon Apr 28, 2003 1:44 am

You know, people always wish that PAN AM, the old TWA, Eastern, and Piedmont were still around. But those were during the days when people dressed nicely to fly, had good etiquette, and when air travel was a privledge and a special event. Now that people drag up to planes wearing PJ bottoms and sneakers, act rude to the crews, and think they deservere everyhting for a $140 RT ticket from LGA-MCO, things will never be like they used to, and airlines have had to adapt to this new style.

I personally belive that there is a certain way to act on board an airplane no matter what airline you are flying and no matter what you payed for your ticket. EVEN when I am NOT non-reving, I ALWAYS wear kakhis and a button down shirt, use manners to the crews, smile at them, thank them. Deep down I am thinking that maybe more and more people will start doing this too!  Smile

And about the safty demo. I know we've all heard it hundreds of times. I mean as a flight attendant I have had to MEMORIZE it word for word, but it is a courtsey to the crew members not to talk outloud. Reading, ok fine whatever....there's nothing we can do about that. (Although if you are sitting RIGHT there in he/she's eyesight, give them your eye contact at least for 20 seconds)  Smile
 
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RE: Code Of Conduct/ Etiquette For Air Travel

Mon Apr 28, 2003 1:54 am

But those were during the days when people dressed nicely to fly, had good etiquette, and when air travel was a privledge and a special event. Now that people drag up to planes wearing PJ bottoms and sneakers, act rude to the crews, and think they deservere everyhting for a $140 RT ticket from LGA-MCO, things will never be like they used to, and airlines have had to adapt to this new style.

Thinking about this makes me wish I had been born 20-30 years earlier so that I could have traveled nonrev in the "Golden Age of Air Travel". I do remember when the whole family went to the airport to drop off or pick up the lucky traveller. It was a big event! Full flights were not as common, and the meals served in coach back then would probably be better than some of the ones in first class these days. Yes, everybody dressed up. However, I dont really miss having to wear a suit and tie. Having that toned down to nice pants and a buttoned/collared shirt works fine for me. If travelling on a paid ticket, I will wear sneakers simply because they are the only pair of shoes I have that will not set off the metal detector. Having to remove shoes at every security checkpoint gets old very quickly.

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