IndianicWorld
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Oversupply In The Gulf Region?

Tue Apr 29, 2003 2:08 pm

It strikes me as weird that Emirates, Qatar Airways and Gulf Air all are expanding or planning to expand to huge sizes within the next 10 years.

The Middle Eastern region has;

* Saudi Arabian ( Jeddah )
* Kuwait Airways ( Kuwait City )
* MEA ( Beirut )
* Oman Air ( Muscat )
* Air Arabia ( New Sharjah airline )
* Gulf Air ( Abu Dhabi, Bahrain, Muscat )
* Royal Jordanian ( Amman )
* Syrian Airlines ( Damascus )
* Emirates ( Dubai )
* Qatar Airways ( Doha )

and remembering that theres also the chance that Iraq Airways ( Baghdad ) may restart operations at soon point in the non too distant future.

How can ALL these carriers be successful when theres a few that plan MASSIVE expansions, and the fact that the Middle Eastern region is not exactly the most populated region in the world, O & D can not be a main driver of growth.

Any ideas on how people think these airlines will go, and which will fail and which will be successes?

My vote goes to Qatar Airways as failing, Emirates for success.

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IndianicWorld
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RE: Oversupply In The Gulf Region?

Wed Apr 30, 2003 6:54 pm

No ideas on the topic?

Anything at all..

 
La Carlota
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RE: Oversupply In The Gulf Region?

Wed Apr 30, 2003 7:11 pm

It has always amazed me that one samll country like the UAE can afford to have two big companies, like Gulf Air and Emirates!!!!
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RE: Oversupply In The Gulf Region?

Wed Apr 30, 2003 8:08 pm

La Carlota, only Emirates is based at United Arab Emirates, while Gulf Air is based at Oman, another independent country in the gulf.

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RE: Oversupply In The Gulf Region?

Wed Apr 30, 2003 8:29 pm

Thanks for that, 9V-SPK...
But isn't it true that it serves Abu Dhabi and is partially owned by the government of that emirate?
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RE: Oversupply In The Gulf Region?

Wed Apr 30, 2003 10:48 pm

Actually Gulf Air is actually predominantly based at Bahrain. This is their major hub.
 
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RE: Oversupply In The Gulf Region?

Wed Apr 30, 2003 11:08 pm

It does seem weird that all these carriers seem to want a slice of a market, which by most world standards, is not large. Dubai has a population of less than a million for instance, Qatar about 1 million for the whole country. Those markets are tiny, and they rely on one thing to boost business, OIL. There is no diversification in business in these places ( except Dubai which is trying to become a mega tourist centre ). Theres alot that amazes me, and how these growth figures are reached by the airlines in their planning....

Very short cited in my opinion.....

PS

Also Americans seem to say KUTTA of sumthing like dat for the name of QATAR.... its actually pronounced QWAT-AR, pronoucing the Q... this is another Americanisation of the rest of the English language and it needs to be said properly. We are even finding that Australian news are saying it KUTTA now....

Sorry for that view

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RE: Oversupply In The Gulf Region?

Wed Apr 30, 2003 11:22 pm

Emirates' fleet expansion plans (773, 380) do seem excessive.

I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
 
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RE: Oversupply In The Gulf Region?

Wed Apr 30, 2003 11:38 pm

Emirates, Gulf Air and Qatar Airways are using the middle east location as a stopover for transfer traffic which the vast majority of their passenger are. It is well located to offer connections to the Far East, Australasia to the east and Europe to the west. Whilst the area itself was once not a destination in itself for many travellers, Dubai has shown that with investment it can move away from relying on oil as its core business and make the whole area a destination in itself, atleast for a short break. Many travellers on Emirates for example will have a one or 2 day stopover in Dubai, spend their money in hotels and in the shops and hence the airline is a key part of the Dubai economic strategy and must therefore be expanded if the UAE is to remain prosperous and attract tourists. Same goes for Qatar Airways at Doha aswell as Gulf Air - transfer market is key.
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