SierraAir
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Old Airport Terminals

Thu May 01, 2003 2:55 pm

I'm wondering if anyone out there has any info about some old airport terminals. The main ones that I am interested in are Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Dallas Love, and Denver Stapleton. Any info that could be provide would be great. Any old maps or airport overviews and you would be my hero for life. Thanks.

Brian
 
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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Thu May 01, 2003 3:44 pm

What would you like to know? I can tell you a bit about PIT and DEN.
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Tom in NO
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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Thu May 01, 2003 11:56 pm

Brian,

Same here. I've got a number of items from each airport. It depends on what you are looking for.

ATL:
1) pictorial history book written by George Cearley. Copies still available (not sure how, but I saw them at a show in Dallas recently)
2) overhead postcard

DAL:
1) another book written by George Cearley. Copies hard to find. I've got copies of the various terminal layouts.

PIT:
1) various maps I haven't looked at in a while. Would have to dig them up.

DEN:
1) same as PIT, but more readily accessible.

Also, there is a website being developed that is devoted to old terminals, but I don't have the link here at work (it's at home).

Let us know what you are looking for, and we'll see what we can do.

Tom in NO (at MSY)
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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Fri May 02, 2003 2:05 am

Brian:

I'm putting together the website on old terminals that Tom alluded to above (he's helping me out with some old pictures.)

The URL is http://oldterminals.topcities.com.

It's coming together pretty slowly at this point (I've just got PIT, AUS, GSO and PHX up there at the moment) but I want to grow it to include every big terminal that's been deactivated since 1975 or so. That includes FLL, MCO, FMY, PBI, DAB, PNS, TLH, ATL, CLT, ORF, BUF, ROC, ALB, LBB, COS, DEN, ONT, SNA, and plenty others.

Hopefully it will answer some of your questions.

And to Zrs70 and of course Tom: any information, photos and maps you can provide would be an asset to the project as well.
 
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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Fri May 02, 2003 2:31 am

Brian,

If you ever do anything on MDW, I am sure I can help with a few pictures.

Dave
 
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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Fri May 02, 2003 2:50 am

Jamie,

I've a fairly open night tonight, so I'll get some more pics sent off to you. And, all the pics show up fine on my computer now. Check your inbox for a couple of questions.

Tom
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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Fri May 02, 2003 6:39 am

The old terminal at ONT isnt neccesarily deactivated. It is still used for charters, but all the pax arrive by bus planeside. Also, as of right now, while the taxiway realignment is taking place, this is where all the cargo operations that were at the west ramp are.

Airborne uses the old DL terminal.

And with ORF, I believe you are talking about the Intl terminal?
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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Fri May 02, 2003 7:19 am

Well, apparently taking my site "public" has overwhelmed its meager little bandwidth limits. It's been shut down "temporarily", which it says means until the end of the month.

Grrrrr.... I'm looking at transferring it to a new server, but there are so few free internet servers around. Any suggestions?

Meantime, keep the old terminal information coming. Brian, with regard to your original post, I have lots of information on Dallas Love Field if you have any specific questions.
 
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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Fri May 02, 2003 7:53 am

According to your profile, you're a college student. Most colleges provide students with free webspace. You might want to check into that.



My suggestion to everyone out there is don't use a free hosting provider if you plan on posting links to the site here or in another forum. You're guaranteed to go over your bandwidth limit, especially on photo heavy sites.
 
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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Fri May 02, 2003 8:29 am

I have a really good old postcard showing the old south terminal at ORF. Now, all that's left is a really pot-holed parking lot. I have it scanned if you're interested.

Also, right here in Huntsville, they moved the airport to the present site in 1967. Here in the city (and not far from where I live) is the old airport. The classic 1940's terminal still stands, and many of the old runways and taxiways are still there. A lot of the field is now soccer fields and stadiums, but a good part of the airport is still there. It's kind of neat to drive on runways where 727's and DC9's used to land.

Lemme know if you want any more info.

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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Fri May 02, 2003 8:36 am

Chris:

I'd love to see the ORF picture - I don't have any photos on that one, and very little information. I know that it closed in 1974, but that's about it.

Also, didn't Huntsville reconfigure the existing terminal from a two-satellite design to a single pier at some point in the past 15 years?
 
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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Fri May 02, 2003 8:42 am

I think they are turning the old Stapleton into a housing and commercial site? Not exactly sure but I saw on either the Discovery Channel or the Learning Channel that the old runways and taxiways are(or were, not sure how old that video footage was) being torn up and is the largest pavement ripping up project in the world at the moment or whenever it was. Pretty interesting. If you drive by the site there are huge piles of torn up concrete everywhere. Maybe somebody else can elaborate on the progress on this.

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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Fri May 02, 2003 9:12 am

The old ATL terminal sat unused until the late 1980s, when it was demolished. On the former site of the terminal is the Rennaissance Hotel and 100 Hartsfield Centre, home of ASA's General Offices. The Mercury Air Center is on some of the former ramp are of the old terminal.
 
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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Fri May 02, 2003 10:20 am

Info on the redevelopment of the old Stapleton site is at:

http://www.stapletondenver.com
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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Fri May 02, 2003 11:12 am

jsnww81,

Yes, at the newer site, there used to be two five gate ground level "donut" satellites protruding from the terminal (they were ground level on the ramp, but on the second level of the terminal.) These were demolished in 1990 when the new more modern single concourse opened with 12 gates. It's at capacity now.

The new site is located about 8 miles to the west of downtown, just outside of the suburb of Madison. The old airport is located just a couple of miles south of downtown off highway 231. There is a lot of developement in the area, a lot of which was there when the airport moved in 1967. There is a Wal-Mart just to the north of the old main runway. When the airport was operational, it was a KMart, and old timers still remember how landing lights were located in the parking lot.

It's hard to imagine the old jets flying in and out of there. The runway was only 5000 feet long with a rather sharp hill directly at one end. In articles I have from about the time the new airport was open, Eastern pilots describe it as the hardest airport to land in.

It's a really neat place. I've got just a few pictures of it at

http://www.studiocms.com/nonrevenation/pichsv02.htm.

Here's the picture from the eighties of ORF.





The old south terminal is there in the bottom right hand corner. It's a pretty good view of it. Unfortunately, although I've used the new terminal many times (it is fantastic now) I never got to use the old one.

chRis

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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Fri May 02, 2003 1:09 pm

And every airport listed with the exception of ATL, are airports I've only been to the old terminals. I must be getting old.

Jsnww81, I'm looking forward to seeing your page when it works. Great idea.
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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Fri May 02, 2003 4:04 pm

Thanks for all the replies. All the info is increadibly interesting. To clarify, mostly what I'm looking for is photos of the old terminals and gate areas, gate maps, or maps of the airports. I actually looking to create a site of all the old terminals and all the new ones to show the changes in times. I've actually found quite a bit of information already for Stapleton. http://milehifield.topcities.com/main.html This site has quite a bit of old pictures and maps. I guess this is the kind of information that I'm looking for for all airports. I'd also really appreciate if anyone had any old Jeppesen airport diagrams. Again, thanks for all the info.

Brian
 
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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Sun May 04, 2003 10:56 am

Hey, don't forget about Ft. Worth's Amon Carter Field, later renamed Greater Southwest International Airport. Here's a good website on that one. It's one of those sites that has an hourly bandwidth limit, so it you don't get it the first time, try again later.

Greater Southwest International Airport

It's got lots of information as well as old photos and maps and pictures of the site today.Another oldie but goody is this thread from last March.

Posted March 12, 2002

Greater Southwest Int'l Airport

As far as Love Field goes, we've had several good discussions in the past. These are some of the more informative ones that I can remember.

Posted July 3, 2001

Braniff,AA,DAL,DFW Etc...

Posted March 12, 2002

Dallas Love Field In Its Heyday

Posted April 11, 2002

Dallas-Love Field Airlines/Concourses Prior To '74

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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Sun May 04, 2003 1:10 pm

Just as a heads up, my site on old terminals is back online... go to it carefully please  Smile

I added Austin last week and will hopefully be adding another one (or two) tomorrow. Possibly Fort Lauderdale or Daytona Beach. I may just bite the bullet and do Atlanta (I've got tons of pictures of that one so it'll take forever to code.)
 
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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Sun May 04, 2003 1:50 pm

oops. screwed up the link for the Greater Southwest Int'l Airport website. The correct link is

http://members.tripod.com/airfields_freeman/TX/Airfields_TX_FtWorth_NE.htm

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RE: Old Airport Terminals

Sun May 04, 2003 3:33 pm

I found 2 interior photos of Love Field, both showing the entrances to the councourses

The first one is a pic of the entrance to the North Concourse taken about 1998. You can also see the signs for Southwest's gates (1-15) in the West Concourse and signs for CoEX and AA (41, 42) in the East Concourse.

The second photo I'm guessing was taken in the early to mid 1960's and appears to be the moving sidewalks that led to the East Concourse.

LoneStarMike