It just seems like with all of the "start-up" airlines out there, competition has become very strong. Many of these new airlines are finding out that they just can't compete in the market. WinAir was a start up out of LGB. It started like wildfire. They expanded routes in a short amount of time, they hired a whole bunch of people and set out on that course to be just like the "big boys". They failed real bad. They just couldn't compete. It's kind of sad. These Airlines, like WinAir, are good for the industry. It was sad to see so many people loose their jobs at WinAir. I knew a lot of them.