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TWA & ST. Louis

Tue Nov 30, 1999 11:11 pm

Is TWA to become a lone niche carrier with one (huge!) hub at St. Louis, similar to smaller carriers such as Southwest? As far as I am aware, TWA's international route network is far from what it used to be & it has not alligned itself with any alliance as such or other carriers? The TWA 800 accident and the dominance of UA/AA/DL/NW & more and more CO across TWA's old stomping ground - the north Atlantic, seem to relegate TW to a low level carrier, it also to my knowledge has retired all it's big widebody capacity, it's B747's & L1011's?
So what is to become of this once great carrier (was it ever?), they certainly seemed to have finally got themselves a good CEO & management team - but is this enough with only one major hub? Is JFK still a major port for TWA? Have they learnt the lessons of Pan Am?
I would be interested in your thoughts! Cheers.
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RE: TWA & ST. Louis

Wed Dec 01, 1999 3:49 am

1011 and 747 are gone. Only the 767 now in the wide body.
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RE: TWA & ST. Louis

Wed Dec 01, 1999 7:34 am

Yes, they still have a hub in STL as well as JFK. They are still somewhat large in New York since they still fly nonstop to the west coast, Chicago, Florida, the Carribean, and the remaining European destinations. No, in Europe they aren't as large as they once were. The popular trend of code-sharing has crippled routes to Germany, Greece, Rome and Spain. The new management team has realized this, so they are moving their efforts elsewhere. They are expading like wildfire in the carribean and are increasing service to the Middle East. Now, if the employee groups can get happy with each other and if the new aircraft arrive in time, we may see TWA become a profitable, yet lean company. Then when the time is right they can work on re-establishing themselves where they used to be.
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RE: TWA & ST. Louis

Wed Dec 01, 1999 10:19 am

First off, STL is TWA's huge hub. If you have ever been there you know what im talking about. For the people who havent, TWA has probably about 90% of the operations there and that airport is no bore. STL is now in the top 10 for busiest airports in the world and is continuing to grow. As for JFK, thats where you see most of TWA's heavy jets. And they do still have a pretty good hub going there. TWA is growing big time in the Caribbean and making a hub out of San Juan now. TWA is ofcourse not the size they used to be, but the way I look at it, they are certainly growing and doing very good service wise. I fly TWA all the time and love them. The other day alone I flew on a brand new 757 then the next leg was in a 2 week old MD-83. I believe TWA is gonna pull out and continue to grow as they are now 
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RE: TWA & ST. Louis Vs CO On The Go!

Wed Dec 01, 1999 2:13 pm

Continental used to be like TWA in terms of size and I guess reputation. It looks like to me that CO are on the grow big time! Adding new big & small jets (B777's to B737-700's) at a rapid rate and also expanding their presence in many more markets (except the Sth Pacific) & code sharing/alliance hunting with airlines like AmWest & now NW/KL/AZ & separately Virgin?
Looks like they've earnt their title 'worst to first' - CEO Gordon Bethune looks like he has done a great deal of hard work & pulled CO out of the Chapter 11 blues that Frank Lorenzo left it in!
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