JOliver
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UAL Troop Flights

Sun May 04, 2003 12:03 pm

Speaking to a UA F/A today, I learned that the company has been flying troop transport flights since March.
Further, that F/A crews working the flights have typically been those with 35 yrs of seniority or more.
I know jr. F/As who would have liked to have flown those flights but interest was high with experienced F/As
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flyf15
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RE: UAL Troop Flights

Sun May 04, 2003 12:08 pm

Yep, they have been. I've been watching the flights out into Colorado Springs lately, seen up to 3 daily United 747s along with 767s and 777s. This all along with numerous other widebodies from other airlines.
 
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RE: UAL Troop Flights

Sun May 04, 2003 12:16 pm

we have had a couple of good 747 flights out of BWI also
 
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RE: UAL Troop Flights

Sun May 04, 2003 4:53 pm

I sure don't see those CRAF trips being "senior" by any means, especially through SFO--international lines are now extremely hard to hold, considering flight attendants of 32 and 30 years seniority were numbers 5 and 6, respectively, of 10 flight attendants on the "horrible" OGG turn...

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pecoua
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RE: UAL Troop Flights

Mon May 05, 2003 3:00 am

In response to FLY777UAL,

The CRAF trips are really senior now...the junior kids were getting them in Jan and Feb, but in March, they began utilizing a pure seniority list, so now they start at the top and work their way down. The CRAF trips will be flown by very very senior flight attendants for a while...it probably won't hit the junior seniorities at all.
 
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RE: UAL Troop Flights

Mon May 05, 2003 3:04 am

Just curious-What is the major attraction for a f/a to work CRAF trips?
 
dinker225
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RE: UAL Troop Flights

Mon May 05, 2003 3:08 am

Pardon my stupidity on the F/A language, but what is a CRAF trip?

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RE: UAL Troop Flights

Mon May 05, 2003 3:10 am

CRAF is short for Civil Reserve Air Fleet I believe.

Basically the military holds civil aircraft in reserve for mobilization in troop/equipment transport during military movements.
 
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RE: UAL Troop Flights

Mon May 05, 2003 3:13 am

(Just curious-What is the major attraction for a f/a to work CRAF trips?)

The militaries are probably nicer to them then the regular passengers.  Nuts

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pecoua
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RE: UAL Troop Flights

Mon May 05, 2003 3:26 am

The attraction is money...it is at international payrates and long layovers plus either a deadhead or a ferry back to the states...they are easier to work than reg flights. The military is awesome to wait on.
 
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RE: UAL Troop Flights

Mon May 05, 2003 3:30 am

Thanks for the info on CRAF. How would they go about seating the troops on these flights. On the 747 or any other international aircraft with coach, business and first class seating, who gets to sit where? Is it just go all the way to the back and the last ones on board get the better seats or do the commanders get the firs class seats? Thanks for the info

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RE: UAL Troop Flights

Mon May 05, 2003 3:31 am

Typically officers get the premium seats.
 
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RE: UAL Troop Flights

Mon May 05, 2003 3:55 am

The aircraft usually use the callsign 'Reach', the same as normal USAF transport aircraft. The aircraft type (B744 and B777) gives them away.

American have been transporting troops on their B777's as well though they seem to use the 'American' callsign.

You can bet your bottom dollar that the officers get the premium seats!