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Since When Are Photo IDs Required At Gate?

Wed May 07, 2003 7:02 pm

I know that sounds like a really dumb question, but I am researching the U.S. Aviation Industry's immediate response to the 9/11 attacks from a historical perspective (including the closure of the U.S. airspace system, the gradual resumption of flights, the subsequent restrictions on general aviation flights lasting weeks, the creation of the TSA, the National Guard with their machine guns at the airports, the cultural changes in aviation to a more "security focused" mindset, and how various security measures have been added and removed over the last year and a half).

As part of this research, I am searching Airliners.net as well as the Internet Archive http://www.archive.org and following news developments as they occured on the FAA's and other websites.

After 9/11, I didn't fly until November 2001, which most of these measures were already in effect. Among these measures was a requirement to show a photo ID along with your boarding pass at the gate. I realize this measure is currently being phased out, but my question is: Was this requirement implemented immediately after the airports reopened in the days after 9/11, or did several days/weeks go by before this measure was implemented?
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RE: Since When Are Photo IDs Required At Gate?

Thu May 08, 2003 2:36 am

My mom flew about 4 days after the airspace was opened again and she mentioned having to show ID numerous times,including at the gate. Airports now are very inconsistent with that. Some airports you have to show ID at the gate,some you dont... Ive actually approached the Gate Agents before flights to ask,and usually after I ask there is an announcement made regarding it, and about 90% of people in the gate area put their IDs away.
 
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RE: Since When Are Photo IDs Required At Gate?

Thu May 08, 2003 2:51 am

The TSA no longer mandates that photo ID be checked at the gate, as it's being done at check-in and/or at the security checkpoints.

Airlines and individual airports have the latitude to ask for additional ID checks at the boarding gates if they wish, though. It's at their discretion, but not mandatory.
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RE: Since When Are Photo IDs Required At Gate?

Thu May 08, 2003 3:11 am

I last flew US in February from ROC-DCA. At the gate I had to show my ID and also once again while in DCA.
On the return I flew from MYR-CLT-PIT-ROC and I did not have to show my ID at all AT THE GATES, only at check-in and security.
From that I assume, the ID checking is still going on for Washington flights.

Anyone correct me if that has changes since. Thanks
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jhooper
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RE: Since When Are Photo IDs Required At Gate?

Thu May 08, 2003 3:57 am

I actually thought that the ID requirement was withdrawn at the gate at airports where all secondary screening is done at the checkpoints (and ID is checked at the checkpoint with a boarding pass). The only airport I frequent regularly where you still have to show ID is ATL.
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RE: Since When Are Photo IDs Required At Gate?

Thu May 08, 2003 4:24 am

I flew 4 segments last month, was asked for my ID at each of them.
 
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RE: Since When Are Photo IDs Required At Gate?

Thu May 08, 2003 4:55 am

Jhooper,
As far as I can remember, airlines were checking ID's upon boarding for several years BEFORE 9/11 occurred. They were not checked at the security checkpoints, however. The gate checks were done by airline personnel. On international flights, your had to have your passport, on domestic, any form of gov't ID worked (driver's license, etc). Bag-matching was also done prior to 9/11. I was delayed on a HNL-SEA once because one of the passengers didn't board the flight and they had to find and offload their bag.
 
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RE: Since When Are Photo IDs Required At Gate?

Thu May 08, 2003 5:20 am

That's not correct. Before 9/11, airlines checked IDs upon checkin, but not as you board. Bag matching was only done on INTL flights, but not on ordinary U.S. domestic travel. HNL may have been an exception.
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RE: Since When Are Photo IDs Required At Gate?

Thu May 08, 2003 12:15 pm

Jhooper,
I know for a fact that prior to 9/11, my I.D. was checked as I boarded the plane as well as when I checked in. I flew American mostly, so I can't 100% remember if all the airlines did it, but AA definitely did. The boarding announcement at the gate would say something like "Please have your boarding pass and picture I.D. out and available to expedite the boarding process." I do remember hearing that they matched bags at HNL because they were overwater flights.
 
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RE: Since When Are Photo IDs Required At Gate?

Thu May 08, 2003 1:20 pm

NEVER was I EVER asked to show my ID pre-9/11, EVEN AT CHECK-IN (domestic flights)!!! I clearly remember this because (1) I thought it was extremely dangerous and thought a stranger could have "jumped" any flier and taken their ticket (a la beginning of the movie "Miami Blues" with Alec Baldwin?), and (2) I flew on tickets bearing family members names.

International, however, I have always had to show ID. But, only at check-in. So for instance, checking in at San Antonio for a two-leg journey to Brussels with a stop in Chicago, I was never asked to show ID in Chicago when boarding the flight, only at my starting point in San Antonio.
 
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RE: Since When Are Photo IDs Required At Gate?

Thu May 08, 2003 1:28 pm

Before (and after) 9/11, I always had the impression that the airline agent didn't even want to talk to me unless I was flashing an ID in their face. (I almost wanted to just glue it to my forehead so I wouldn't have to worry about it anymore), but it was never checked as I actually boarded.

I suppose this pre-9/11 practice of only checking ID as you checked in didn't do much good. A person could easily buy a ticket in their name and then go to the airport and check in, and just simply hand off the boarding pass to somebody else.
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RE: Since When Are Photo IDs Required At Gate?

Thu May 08, 2003 5:58 pm


Even before 2001, you sometimes had to show your passport at the gate when boarding an international flight.
 
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RE: Since When Are Photo IDs Required At Gate?

Fri May 09, 2003 12:31 am

"Was this requirement implemented immediately after the airports reopened in the days after 9/11, or did several days/weeks go by before this measure was implemented? "

To actually answer the question you asked....I flew on 9/17 and they had already started checking ID's EVERYWHERE. I had to show it about 7 times at Midway. I cannot recall what day airspace was actually opened (for normal traffic, not rearranging planes) , but this was one of the first days. Only about 4 passangers on a 735.