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Africa Fleet News/Orders (SW A343,SA A380)

Mon May 12, 2003 5:15 pm

* Air Namibia will get two A340-300, one in July, one in October.

* South African has said that they are interested in 7 A380s in 2007.

* TAAG Air Angola is likely to place orders for new planes soon.

* Egypt Air will order either ERJ-145 or CRJ200.

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RE: Africa Fleet News/Orders (SW A343,SA A380)

Mon May 12, 2003 5:45 pm

Anyone want to bet on Air Namibia...?
I assume these are second hand?
So another 744 phaseout...?

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RE: Africa Fleet News/Orders (SW A343,SA A380)

Mon May 12, 2003 6:10 pm

Don't know how the market for used 340' is, but doesn't Boeing have several ex-SQ ones in store?
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RE: Africa Fleet News/Orders (SW A343,SA A380)

Mon May 12, 2003 6:19 pm

Yeah, they do. Is it the ones that are parked in Berlin, or are they elsewhere?
 
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RE: Africa Fleet News/Orders (SW A343,SA A380)

Mon May 12, 2003 8:42 pm

Air Namibia really confuses me...
I am wondering where they want to use the additional A340. Any plans to start US services? Is there a market? Did they finally find a buyer for their B747-400?

Any answers out there? By the way, is this information already confirmed by Air Namibia?
 
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RE: Africa Fleet News/Orders (SW A343,SA A380)

Mon May 12, 2003 8:52 pm

I just checked the Air Namibia homepage. There it says that they are (again) using an Airbus A330 on the Frankfurt route. Is this again the Novair plane that they used over the winter season?
Seems that they found a buyer for the B747; but maybe they painted it white again and don't want to use but rather let it rot away at WDH!
 
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RE: Africa Fleet News/Orders (SW A343,SA A380)

Mon May 12, 2003 8:55 pm

I bet if Air Namibia retires its 744 without selling they´ll be bancrupt because this single aircraft represents 50% of what the airline is worth!
Or is the real owner a lessor with a big heart?

 
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RE: Africa Fleet News/Orders (SW A343,SA A380)

Mon May 12, 2003 11:36 pm

Any plans to start US services?

They have been looking at starting services to Miami to pick up connecting traffic from elsewhere and local traffic (Miami has a huge southern African population, mainly South African) which would continue to Houston to pick up oil traffic, mainly going to Angola. Though this was two-three years ago and nothing has surfaced. They have also expressed interest in Dulles and JFK.
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RE: Africa Fleet News/Orders (SW A343,SA A380)

Tue May 13, 2003 2:36 am

I am sure that Air Namibia "expressed interest" in a lot of things, if there plans are realistic is another question.
I wish them all the best, but in my opinion there fleet policy, there ticket pricing, there safety record and a lot of other things are highly questionable...
 
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RE: Africa Fleet News/Orders (SW A343,SA A380)

Tue May 13, 2003 3:16 am

Air Namibia hasn't had a clear fleet structure since 98.
747SP to 767 back to 747SP to B744M to A330 back to B744M back to A330 and considering A343....I'm sure this list will grow steadily over the next year until SAA finally takes over the Namib market as well!
They got the 744M at a bargain from Boeing as I understand, as it was designated for Asiana, which couldn't pick it up during Asian Crisis numero uno. It will damn hard to sell this baby at a resonable price because
a.) UA is 'flooding' the market for used 744s
b.) FAA restrictions on Combi A/Cs

Maybe cargolux or Atlas etc. will buy and convert it....but only an idea of mine.

I don't see why Air Namibia needs 2 A340s. One is okay..but two for what?!
The A330 is more suitable for them as it hauls as much cargo (maybe a bit less due to weight restrictions) with 2 engines and is able to fly WDH-FRA. It's probably even going to be profitable on routes like WDH-JNB.
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RE: Africa Fleet News/Orders (SW A343,SA A380)

Tue May 13, 2003 3:27 am


Hi!

Regarding TAAG and the more and more ties with US industry and commerce I believe will keep on going with Boeing, I think a very wise choise would be the 777-200ER, Air France and BA are already flying those to Luanda so it should be quite interesting to see a 777 in TAAG colours. About the Airbus, doens't look that thye'll have chances, but if they still have quite strong ties with TAP and SAA who knows?
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