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Need Advice - Sars And Travel Through Asia

Tue May 13, 2003 11:28 pm

Hi folks,

I am flying to AKL through SIN on July 22.
With the current SARS scare, my girlfriend is urging me to fly through LAX. Should I really change my flights? I would really love the comfort and service of Singapore Airlines for over 20 hours! Big grin I have a 6 hour stop over in SIN. What is the situation there, and how likely is it that it will get worse by then (I know Singapore hasnt had cases for days now)?

Please share your opinion with me, it would be of great help.

Regards
StarFlyer
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docpepz
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RE: Need Advice - Sars And Travel Through Asia

Tue May 13, 2003 11:57 pm

Singapore has seen no new SARS cases for 15 days. Just 5 more days and we'll be off the list of SARS affected countries. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

The CDC has dropped its travel advisory for Singapore. The UK and NZ do not have travel advisories against travel to Singapore.

THe WHO does not (and never did) have a travel advisory against travel to Singapore

It is safe to come here! Please do !
 
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RE: Need Advice - Sars And Travel Through Asia

Wed May 14, 2003 12:12 am

Thanks to the media, the SARS scare has been blown really out of proportion. While we all know the extend of the deadly virus, several measures have been in place enough for the country to be safe. Thank God for the small size of Singapore, I guess the disease is easier to control in terms of curbing foreign incursions of the virus. So far, all those affected were traceable and those around them were all accounted for and quarantined accordingly.

Unlike in large countries like China, we do not have an "uneducated" rural area where medical facilities are scarce. In fact, Singapore has recently been hailed as a role model in combating SARS a few times and Hongkong (where the international spread began) decided to adopt Singapore's method a few weeks back (whatever that meant??). Taiwan editorials have recently also mentioned that Singapore should be looked up to.

With all these in mind, the Singapore also has not seen any new cases and if this trend continues, we would be off WHO's list of "SARS affected countries". Bear in mind that the fight to combat the disease is still there despite a tapering off in SARS cases.

So is Singapore safe? Yes.
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hkg82
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RE: Need Advice - Sars And Travel Through Asia

Wed May 14, 2003 1:03 am

"In fact, Singapore has recently been hailed as a role model in combating SARS a few times and Hongkong (where the international spread began) decided to adopt Singapore's method a few weeks back (whatever that meant??). Taiwan editorials have recently also mentioned that Singapore should be looked up to."

Shortly after the Singaporean government announced their quarantine measures, the HK government announced theirs, and they admitted to adopting Singapore’s method (although the SAR government was not as strict with the quarantine rules). Up until that point, our government wasn’t doing anything to contain the outbreak, so it was about damn time!!

Our cities learn a lot from each other, don’t they, despite the on-going, never-ending rivalry!

Singapore was fast in dealing with the outbreak, and as the Singaporean government plays a very large role in the economy & community, the government is quick to act against any problems that may arise in the city-state, and in this case, the SARS outbreak. As such, Singapore is soon going to be declared SARS-free. Well done!

Singapore is as safe as ever to visit; you shouldn’t have to worry about SARS there. Hope you enjoy traveling on the world’s finest airline. Have a great trip!

Hkg82.
 
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RE: Need Advice - Sars And Travel Through Asia

Wed May 14, 2003 5:03 pm

Thanks guys for your replies! It's hard to know what to believe these days from the media.
I think I will leave my flight as is!

thanks so much again
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RE: Need Advice - Sars And Travel Through Asia

Wed May 14, 2003 8:52 pm


If you are really concerned you could always fly with Malaysia Airlines, thru Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia has not been affected by SARS as much as Singapore or Hong Kong
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RE: Need Advice - Sars And Travel Through Asia

Wed May 14, 2003 10:12 pm

Chrisrad,

Thanks for that, thing is, I have a *A ticket, so MH is not an option. Though I would love to have tried them!
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RE: Need Advice - Sars And Travel Through Asia

Fri May 16, 2003 5:15 pm

Please, you could go via Beijing and you will not get it. Wash your hands wear a fask mask ond your safe.
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RE: Need Advice - Sars And Travel Through Asia

Fri May 16, 2003 5:53 pm

Well, you see, its not too cool to wear a mask for about 30 hours! I am flying SQ now, but I hope it'll all be over by then!
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RE: Need Advice - Sars And Travel Through Asia

Fri May 16, 2003 6:43 pm

By 18 May, if no new SARS cases emerge, Singapore will be declared SARS-free.

I must admit to being surprised by some kind words from our fellow SARS-battered counterparts from Hong Kong . . . however, much as you have noted that HKG adopted SIN's measures . . . Hong Kong hasn't exactly been a follower.

It led this region in researching the virus and finally got the first word out that it is the coronavirus. So there you go . . . Hong Kong had contributed in a crucial area too.

I only hope that after this is all over, we all realise that HKG and SIN have much in common and compete in other areas. In the tourism industry, the former Chairman of the Sri Lankan Tourism Board - Mr Renton De Alwis coined a word "co-opetition" - indicating that there are areas to co-operate and compete.

Looking forward to the situation improving in HKG, SIN, Taiwan and China.

KC Sim
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RE: Need Advice - Sars And Travel Through Asia

Fri May 16, 2003 7:28 pm

Hongkong has not seen any new cases too in the last few days. Now lets hope for the best for them as well. However, all is not well on the political side as the Chief Exec Tung Chee Hua come under fire for his inability to govern his cabinet when dealing with this crisis.

Lets sit it out for a few more weeks and see what is the outcome.

In the mean time, there was a false alarm a few days back as another cluster of suspected SARS carriers were identified in a mental hospital, far away from the traditional contact points. Looks like they got it out of nowhere! Thank God it turned out to be a common flu virus. But they are now being treated as SARS patients just in case. Thus quarantine and what-have-yous are all in place.

Cheers
Ryan
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hkg82
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RE: Need Advice - Sars And Travel Through Asia

Fri May 16, 2003 11:55 pm

Well, unlike other forum members here from Hong Kong, I maintain my objectivity. Smile

Aviasian: Yes, that’s right. HK led the research & first identified the virus. Ironically it was because there was a much wider variety of cases here than anywhere else (except for China of course, but China’s educational & medical institutions are not as experienced or as capable as HK’s in the area of virus research).

I think once the SAR government saw how fast the Singapore government was dealing with the outbreak, and how much praise they were receiving from the WHO & the foreign media, they finally decided to speed up the process.

Ryanair!!!: There hasn’t been a day where the HK government hasn’t reported new cases, unfortunately! The infection rate has been on a solid downward trend for the last 2-3 weeks, and figures for new cases have stood at less than 10 for the duration of that time period. Furthermore, the number of people being discharged daily has also been far higher than the number of new cases daily for the last month.

There were only 3 new SARS cases today.

As for the controversy surrounding the Tung administration’s handling of the outbreak, it’s nothing new & it’s the same thing we’ve been seeing ever since the handover; the pro-democracy camp regularly criticizing the SAR government for just about every reason imaginable! And in this case, the way the government dealt with the SARS situation. At first, many people were upset because of the HK government’s lax attitude towards the outbreak, but most people are now satisfied with the government as the administration subsequently improved its handling of the situation; more openness, stricter quarantine rules, and so on, and the results show that (i.e. a decline in the infection rate & spread of the virus). Besides, no one gives a damn about politics now anyway.

Things are slowly returning to normal here, and the most telling factor of this is that more & more people in HK are shedding their masks! Big grin

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haanz
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RE: Need Advice - Sars And Travel Through Asia

Sat May 17, 2003 5:55 am

Just did SIN-BKK-CPH yesterday...

My two days in Singapore; have never felt safer with regards to SARS. The cases are isolated at home or in the hospital, and SARS transmits through prolonged close contact.

I have never been screened more often (asked questions, temp checks etc) than in Singapore and at Changi.

In my opinion, as a destination and point of transfer, Singapore and Changi airport are safe.

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