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Worst Livery

Wed May 14, 2003 10:15 am

I know this is likely to create some sparks, but, as we all know, guys on A.net are soooooo mature that this shouldn't be a problem, right?

So guys, what do you think is the worst livery we can see flying in the air these days?

I have to vote for VN. They have at least two liveries and they manage to make sure that both are ugly. Look at this one.

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And this one; still shows that old soviet style.

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A close runner up is AM. Too drab for me.

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RE: Worst Livery

Wed May 14, 2003 10:18 am

American Eagle I believe is the worse.
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RE: Worst Livery

Wed May 14, 2003 10:25 am

Northwest's new livery (*cough* JAL copycat *cough*)

and Southwest.


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RE: Worst Livery

Wed May 14, 2003 10:30 am

I agree with flyingbronco05 on both
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RE: Worst Livery

Wed May 14, 2003 10:38 am

Actually i don't think the Vietnam Airlines livery is that bad. At least it's not plain white like so many other carriers- which looks so drab. But that second one sux. Southwest also has a very boring livery. Aeroflot is another one.
 
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RE: Worst Livery

Wed May 14, 2003 10:39 am

Qb001, I have to defend the Viet Nam Airlines 'Lotus' scheme, it is facinating how the aircraft appears to change colour taxying around the airport, from deep blue to aqua green:

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The older scheme has just been gradually built on the original Aeroflot livery.
Liveries are a matter of personal taste, with airlines trying to appeal to the largest possible groups of potential passengers. An aircraft plastered with pastel colours and Disney characters may work in Japan, but not in Russia etc. etc.
I can't say I like the Virgin Blue livery appealing, personally I think it's messy, but I appreciate that low fare paying passengers would be attracted to a bright red 737:

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RE: Worst Livery

Wed May 14, 2003 10:41 am

Forget drab, how about just plain ugly as F#@!


Southwest old colors
LTU
TAM
American Eagle
Virgin Blue
Virgin Express
ATA
Alitalia
Iberia
Germanwings

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RE: Worst Livery

Wed May 14, 2003 10:56 am

I would say the Vietnam Airlines colors are not that bad!

But my vote goes out to Southwest!
 
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RE: Worst Livery

Wed May 14, 2003 10:58 am

I love Vietnam Airlines colors! How could you hate IT!??

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RE: Worst Livery

Wed May 14, 2003 11:07 am

Qb001: I hope you have seen this livery in person to make this judgement . . . because I have had numerous sightings of this livery in good light, and you know what, it is absolutely fabulous.

AJ is spot-on describing how the predominant blue colour seems to change . . . it is a very mystifying colour, it is very smart, it is very very Vietnamese (the lotus especially) . . . in all, the livery and the lotus is very well rendered.

Let us just archive it as a case of different taste and preferences. Some like it plain, some love it colourful.

All the variations in livery just makes our hobby that much more exciting . . . and with an open mind, more educational too.

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RE: Worst Livery

Wed May 14, 2003 11:33 am

The DJ livery would look a bit better without the phone number. That just spoils the whole thing. The QF livery doesn't really do anything for me either- it's a very boring colour scheme that hasn't really changed in the past 15 years. QF's early 1980's livery looked pretty cool on the 747. Ansett's 1970's livery was pretty bad too. The AN shooting stars livery of the early 1980's though was the best one in my opinion.
 
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RE: Worst Livery

Wed May 14, 2003 11:56 am

The worst livery to me is the new Northwest, as well as the old Northworst scheme. Runner up is the old and new Southwest scheme!


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RE: Worst Livery

Wed May 14, 2003 12:12 pm

At the risk of life and limb, I think the new Gulf Air is terrible.
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RE: Worst Livery

Wed May 14, 2003 12:27 pm

I am personally disgusted with:

People Express:
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Braniff's Big Orange:
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RE: Worst Livery

Wed May 14, 2003 9:48 pm

Air India


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Gulf Air


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Air Jamaica


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RE: Worst Livery

Wed May 14, 2003 9:57 pm

WN has to have the most horrendously ugly scheme chronically (both old and new.)

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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 1:01 am

The old continental is also pretty hidious
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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 1:09 am

Air France. In DESPERATE need of a change.
 
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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 1:16 am

I don't like Air India's colors.
 
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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 2:20 am

the new Aerolineas Argentinas's livery
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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 2:32 am

Delta. They should have stuck with their interim livery. The new one is just boring, and looks unfinished.


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For that matter, I would classify any of the boring, uncreative "white whale" liveries as being the worst.
 
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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 3:49 am

I woudn`t call it the worst, but the most boring one!

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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 3:56 am

Yeah I want to change my vote to Air France it is really tired and in need of an update.
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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 4:09 am

For me is IBERIA but there are many others . Example:
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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 4:31 am

Frontier's new "billboard" livery is HORRIBLE!

It didn't look good on Braniff, and it doesn't look good now.
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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 4:59 am

Ones that come to mind are:

Southwest (old)
Southwest (new)
Iberia
Northwest (new)
Aeromexico
Air India
Air Jamaica
Alitalia
Virgin Blue
Virgin Express
Delta (middle)
ATA (old)
ATA (middle)

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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 5:14 am

Ok I do have to defend Vietnam Airlines and Air Jamaica, especially JM, got to admit its an eye turner, true island flavor.

As for my worse pics well here goes:

All time worse


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And can't forget this guy, I mean did this scheme ever look good??? Its like what 40 years old now.


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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 6:08 am

For me, it´s:


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the livery, not the plane!



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Sorry, my italian friends!


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Ouch!


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Makes me wanna puke!


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C´mon monsieurs, times have changed....dump the livery!


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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 6:33 am

Worst should be LH in star alliance


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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 7:30 am

Britannia's old livery was a classic.

The new one is...


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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 8:25 am

Damn! I love Air Greenland's livery and also the Gulf Air one! How can you guys dislike these beauties when all Air France jets are practically completely white with 2 other boring colors....oh excuse me 3, those pretty shades of grey!


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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 9:48 am

You know, there's one good thing about Air France's livery. Convert a pic of one of their planes to grayscale and nobody will notice!:D

As for the worst liveries out there: I really hate most cheatline liveries, but AI takes the cake.
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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 10:21 am

OH MY GOD!
How can people NOT like Iberia and Air India?!?!

I think those two schemes along with Olympic's are beautiful!

Some people have NO taste!!
 
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RE: Worst Livery

Thu May 15, 2003 8:32 pm

Worst Livery on my list:

1. Old BA livery, but now is much much better
2. Old DL livery, now a a bit better
3. Current AA livery ( seems that they have nothing to put on the tail except the eagle. Just make the tail plain and put the eagle on AirForce One instead)
4. AC's livery is getting boring to me, sorry.


Vietnam Airlines' livery and the colours are kind of atypical to conventional schemes. I kinda like it.

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RE: Worst Livery

Fri May 16, 2003 2:13 am

Some oldies, but they are by far the worst:

BOAC circa 1950.

Old National Airlines colors.

And some modern ones:

Original all-white Vanguard (and you know how much I loved that little airline!)

Delta's new scheme, I agree, sucks!

US Airways. So boring, and doesn't give you the impression of an airline on the rise. Rather, they *look* like their in bankruptcy. Even the drab old silver, blue and red-orange looked better.

Trans Meridian's 727s are also quite ugly, I think.
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RE: Worst Livery

Fri May 16, 2003 3:44 am


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RE: Worst Livery

Fri May 16, 2003 9:06 am

BWIA has to got to be the WORST airline livery ever. Even PeoplExpress would be 2nd! Did they really think a gas-chamber-green colored aircraft was attractive?! Not to mention that hub cap on the tail, or whatever that thing is. YUCK!


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RE: Worst Livery

Fri May 16, 2003 9:32 am


The livery is not one of the worst ever. But then again it seems that when u do not comform to the bland forever white scheme with a hint of drab colours on the tail that u are bad.

The hub cap is a steel pan, the last musical instrument to be created in the 20th century. It is about the same age as the airline. The Green is to symbolise the Aquamarine greenish colour of the sea at coral reefs and the gold is to symbolise the sun. The scheme however seems to be best looking in bright sun light.

People express lievery was just plain ole ugly.


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RE: Worst Livery

Fri May 16, 2003 9:48 am

The BWIA livery looks even worse on the A340 !!!.

For me the worst has to be :-

New Britannia Livery - Awful just Awful - how to ruin a classic livery in one easy step.

New EVA Air Livery - that green looks awful - it's far too bright. It's like those socks I used to wear back in the 80's !!!.

Asiana - You have something the size of a 747 to paint and you paint it..........Grey - boring !!!.

Just about all Chinese airlines. They are all white with differant coloured cheat lines depending on the airline - come on let's have some variation.

MY travel - Urggh. Enough said.

FlyBE - Another awful one - the old one was much better - much more bright and cheerful.

Aeroflot - Come on cheer it up a bit. Your free from communism now !!.

New Gulf Air - Disgusting. Another example of James Hogan's influance on ruining a classic livery.

PIA - Blurghhh. Awful airline - Awful livery.

Aer Lingus.COM livery. - If your going to make a flying billboard at least put some effort into it.

Old DHL - But the new one is just as bad.

UPS - Brown is the colour of poo not aeroplanes.

Thats about all I can think of for now.

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RE: Worst Livery

Fri May 16, 2003 9:56 am

I think that the best livery has got to be Aer Lingus. Second is the new jetBlue, followed by Frontier, Brittania(sp), Air Jamaica, and Air Thaiti Nui.

Worst has got to be:
1) Air India
2) Air France
2) Aeroflot
3) Delta's old
4) Aero Mexico
5) JAL
6) Northwest
7) Continental's old livery
8) Air Canada
9) Alitalia
10) Iberia
11) TWA
12) Most former Soviets
13) Western Pacific

That should do it for now. I'm sure I'll think of some more later.

Aer Lingus Rules!

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RE: Worst Livery

Fri May 16, 2003 12:25 pm

It's amazing what one can do to a beautiful 747:

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RE: Worst Livery

Sat May 17, 2003 8:52 am

The new Northwest livery is actually not that bad looking, pictures don't do it justice, I saw one of their DC-9s (N927RC) today in the new livery, and it does look better in person than the pictures I seen of the new livery.
 
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RE: Worst Livery

Sun May 18, 2003 3:26 am

I now have seen the new Midwest livery, and I have to say Pretty Freakin' Ugly!!! The artist's impressions made it look good on a 717, but on a MD-80 it looks horrid. No wonder the Midwest Airlines folks @ ATL are doing fundraisers, perhaps to buy a better livery?
 
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RE: Worst Livery

Sun May 18, 2003 3:37 am

I never liked the TWA twinstripe livery, the colour combination and the design just didn't work for me. Same goes for the Saul Bass (I think that's the name of the designer?) United scheme! I much prefer the current UAL, and both the twin-globe and the final TWA schemes. Much classier in my opinion!

I also positively hate Easyjet's livery, because they wiped out the stylish Go liveries, and because it just is tacky  Big grin

The most boring livery would have to be TACV Cabo Verde.
 
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RE: Worst Livery

Sun May 18, 2003 3:42 am

-Any Eurowhite scheme..especially Air France.
 
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RE: Worst Livery

Fri May 23, 2003 10:29 pm

It seems as though people really do not like anything except the white body/colored tail schemes. Everything else is ugly. BWIA? I was taking off from MIA two days ago and the only two aircrafts that stuck out was BWIA's 737's with their absolutely stunning aqua color. Looks so great from above. I think the scheme is great. Air Jamaica? It is not my favorite but again it deters from the white body/colored tail that Euro's have. JM's tail is really stunning and you should see them in a line. As AirFranceJFK said it is an island flavor and I guess not many people can appreciate that.

But on the contrary, I don't like schemes like AA. What is that? Bare metal silver that at times can look quite patchy, with three stripes on the fuselage? Is that scheme? A cheap one in my opinion. Northwest colors are no coordinated, Grey and red just doesn't look right, and the new scheme is not that great. Now US Airways is among the American carriers that can look quite stunning. Especially the A330. Frontier is great, especially the tail.

Airlines I think have the bad liveries are:

American
Monarch (old Scheme)
Virgin Blue
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RE: Worst Livery

Fri May 23, 2003 10:39 pm

AA : looks like a '70's mirror ball as seen in a disco
Swiss: no creativity
Air Jamaica: looks like They had some leftover paint in different colors


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RE: Worst Livery

Fri May 23, 2003 10:46 pm

@AA727 Why especially Air France (on the other hand I already have an idea). Take a look at Lufthansa, Swiss, SAS just to name a few. They do not differ.
Even worse Air France is known that they're not keen on washing their aircraft so at the end they're even not (euro-) white  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Worst Livery

Sat May 24, 2003 12:11 am

Leezyjet: I think Asiana is beautiful  Smile

I do not like EgyptAir, Cubana and Air China liveries
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RE: Worst Livery

Sat May 24, 2003 12:24 am

The old People Express livery from the 70s and early 80s, absolutely appalling
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