flymia
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Inter State Flights?

Tue May 20, 2003 7:07 am

A few questions first what state has the most interstate service. I am thinking California, Texas, New York, And probly Florida too. What inter state service is at your home airport. Or if you live in a small country in land size what kind of domestic service.
Also why is MCI-STL such a popular flight with AA?
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clipper471
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RE: Inter State Flights?

Tue May 20, 2003 8:05 am

Do you mean "intrastate"?

intrastate- within the state
interstate- between states
 
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RE: Inter State Flights?

Tue May 20, 2003 8:11 am

MCI and STL are Missouri's equivalent of LA and San Francisco bay, the two largest metro areas in the state, far enough apart to make it a natural air market for both O&D and connecting traffic. Also, AA has a large maintenance center at MCI and a hub in STL, there is alot of demand for non-rev travel as well. When TWA was around, it was virtually impossible to non-rev on some of those flights...heck at one pointon time they had L1011's operating one or two flights a day on that one.
As for other states, alot of business takes place within the state, plus people visit friends and relatives or get away for a few days etc....Some states are too small or lack the population to support such services...South Carloina comes 2 mind. If CAE, CHS, GSP and MYR were all 3-4 hours aprt by car, you might see some demand for air service within the state, but this is not the case.
Another factor would be hub traffic. Using STL again, we have flights to MCI, COU, SGF, JLN, and CGI. Most of this traffic, except for MCI is connecting in STL to other markets, though of course there would be some point to point traffic.
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RE: Inter State Flights?

Tue May 20, 2003 8:15 am

Ohio has the following:

Delta: (I know CVG is in KY but are you saying between cities or actual airports?)
CVG-TOL
CVG-DAY
CVG-CAK
CVG-CLE
CVG-CMH

Continental:
CLE-DAY
CLE-CVG
CLE-CMH
CLE-TOL (I'm pretty sure it's back or will be soon)
CLE-CAK (This service ended, but rumored to return)
CLE-YNG (Canceled not sure if it will ever return)

All of this traffic is connecting traffic. The only two routes I imagine are flown for O&D purposes are CVG-CLE, DAY-CLE, and TOL-CVG. Most of these are business travelers on day trips.
 
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RE: Inter State Flights?

Tue May 20, 2003 8:20 am

I'm pretty sure LA and San Francisco are at the top of the list.

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RE: Inter State Flights?

Tue May 20, 2003 8:52 am

Georgia is probably lower down on the list, with the following intra-state routes:

ATL-AGS
ATL-SAV
ATL-MCN
ATL-ABY
ATL-CSG
ATL-BQK
ATL-VLD
 
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RE: Inter State Flights?

Tue May 20, 2003 8:57 am

Cape Air offers BOS-PVC/HYA/ACK/MVY, and Delta used to offer ACK-BOS seasonally last summer.

Florida also has a lot of intrastate routes. Between Southwest, Delta, and American, there are plenty of flights throughout the states, plus a few AirTran and US Airways flights sprinkled in.

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RE: Inter State Flights?

Tue May 20, 2003 9:09 am

Hawaiian and the 717 makes island hops.
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usa4624
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RE: Inter State Flights?

Tue May 20, 2003 10:27 am

Texas's capitol city, Austin, has the following:

AUS - AMA (SWA)
AUS - DAL (SWA, AA)
AUS - DFW (AA, DL)
AUS - ELP (SWA)
AUS - HOU (SWA)
AUS - HRL (SWA)
AUS - IAH (CO, AA)
AUS - LBB (SWA)
AUS - MAF (SWA)

Of course, if it wasn't for Southwest Airlines, we wouldn't have many of these, except for DFW and IAH!

 
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RE: Inter State Flights?

Tue May 20, 2003 12:12 pm

Colorado has an ok number...

DEN-EGE
DEN-COS
DEN-ASE
DEN-Grand Junction
DEN-Cortez
DEN-Durango
DEN-Montrose
DEN-Pueblo
DEN-Hayden/Steamboat

That may be it...

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RE: Inter State Flights?

Tue May 20, 2003 12:14 pm

and if you want to count cvg as in Kentucky you can say
CVG-LEX
and
CVG-SDF
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RE: Inter State Flights?

Tue May 20, 2003 12:49 pm

I don't know for sure, Gigneil, but I suspect that LAX-SAN has more flights than LAX-SFO. I think that is perhaps the most flight between two airports worldwide. I admit to being dated on this since TUS last year had 55 flights and is now up to 94 per day. How'd that happen?

I did, in this instance, exclude BUR, ONT, LGB, OAK and SJC.
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RE: Inter State Flights?

Tue May 20, 2003 1:44 pm

I think that is perhaps the most flight between two airports worldwide.

Doubt it. Most between two individual airports probably belong to SYD-MEL, CGH-SDU, HND-CTS, or MAD-BCN.
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RE: Inter State Flights?

Tue May 20, 2003 2:42 pm

I would bet that LAX-SFO is the most traveled, followed by DFW-IAH...further down,
Also, one airline dominance (US beat AirTran out of market) PHL-PIT
Also in SoCal...LAX-SAN
Mo's STL-MCI service is also well represented by AA and WN.

For Ohio, there used to be DAY-CMH on US Exp...with turboprops (B-1900??) a few years ago. CVG to CLE has to be the most heavily traveled' followed by CVG-CMH (DL uses 757s CVG-CMH!)

Florida is so mixed, but MCO is a major 'connection point' there.
 
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RE: Inter State Flights?

Wed May 21, 2003 12:29 am

JFK-SYR (Jet Blue, formerly AA)
JFK-ALB (AA)
JFK-BUF (Jet Blue, AA??)
LGA-Watertown (US)

????
 
Tom in NO
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RE: Inter State Flights?

Wed May 21, 2003 12:50 am

I would imagine that Louisiana is very close to the bottom of the intra-state list. The only route I can think of that is currently operated is MSY-SHV.

In days gone by, when such commuter airlines as Royale and L'Express were around, we had routes to MLU, BTR, LFT, LCH, etc. Ah, to hear those old Royale G-1 engines whine!

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RE: Inter State Flights?

Wed May 21, 2003 12:55 pm

Well I admit that I haven't studiied an OAG in years but I do remember over 100 daily LAX-SAN flights in the mid 90s. Most were Embraer and Jetstream airrcfat though so passenger count was not the highest.

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RE: Inter State Flights?

Wed May 21, 2003 1:42 pm

DTW - GRR
DTW - FNT
DTW - TVS
DTW - AZO
DTW - Sault St Marie (i think NW)
DTW - Iron Mountian (i think NW)
DTW - LAN
DTW - MKG
DTW - Saginaw (I think NW)

I'm sure that there is some more for Michigan. If there is or i'm wrong with some of these please let me know.
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RE: Inter State Flights?

Wed May 21, 2003 2:41 pm

What about Alaska? To get anywhere (with any kind of speed) you have to fly. Almost every community in the state has scheduled air service of some kind.....
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