Stormin
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Mrtc On AA On Its Way Out... Partially...

Thu May 22, 2003 7:15 am

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=2788367

Reuters is reporting that AA is getting rid of MRTC on the A300s and the 757s, totaling 174 aircraft. That's a shame, MRTC is what made ok with my company forcing me to fly AA over anyone else. At least it is just on these two types, ATL sees mostly F100s and S80s so I don't have to worry about it, for now.

MRTC has made flying coach tolerable to those of us who have to fly every week for work. Without it there is not much of a reason to fly AA over UA or DL as far as comfort goes. Now it will go back to who has the best FF upgrade policies and how we can convince the company travel agent that I really need to fly CO to make that 7 am 'business' meeting.

I understand they are doing it because they need the money... still too bad.

Stormin
 
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RE: Mrtc On AA On Its Way Out... Partially...

Thu May 22, 2003 7:18 am

I forsee the entire fleet loosing MRTC in the future. I have flown AA a few times and I dont find it any more comfortable.
 
usa4624
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RE: Mrtc On AA On Its Way Out... Partially...

Thu May 22, 2003 7:19 am

Saw the same thing on CNN; At least there's still MRTC on the trans oceanic flights ... at least for now!
 
Stormin
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RE: Mrtc On AA On Its Way Out... Partially...

Thu May 22, 2003 7:26 am

AWA,
Coach is still coach but having flown on Delta MD88s and then the next week getting into an AA MD83, I can tell you the extra leg room makes a world of difference. DL 757s are even tighter, never sit in row 25! Myself being 6' and my tall(er) coworkers pray for our upgrades to go through when flying DL. MRTC made it at least tolerable, I could even use my laptop with the lady in front fully reclined. That doesn't happen in coach very often!
 
Boeingfan
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RE: Mrtc On AA On Its Way Out... Partially...

Thu May 22, 2003 7:38 am

Going, going, gone. It is a phased approach, all equipment eventually. Increase ASM (avail. seat miles) with out increasing the need for new equipment. It is the smart thing to do, as no one was paying the premium for coach room anyways.

AAdvantage will still keep the business traveler tied to AA. DL still has the least room and can only be compared to ATA on tight economy seating. AA, UA, CO, NW and US, AS still will offer 32" pitch, at a reasonable price. Back to the '90's seating.

Good news though, also there are fewr F/A's on board.
 
vermeer
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RE: Mrtc On AA On Its Way Out... Partially...

Thu May 22, 2003 7:42 am

It looks like a replay of TWA, when they put more room in coach only to rip it off just one year later...

thanks UA for the economy extra! As status I get the teensy bit extra legroom, which really helps!

Last time I flew delta I had this menatal reminder of going more often to yoga class once back safely home. It would be really helpful for me so to be able to curl in their coach seats.
I am just 6' tall and I cannot cross my legs without embarassing movements of my hips
 
aa61hvy
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RE: Mrtc On AA On Its Way Out... Partially...

Thu May 22, 2003 8:32 am

I wonder why it's only the A300 and 757?
Go big or go home
 
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RE: Mrtc On AA On Its Way Out... Partially...

Thu May 22, 2003 9:21 am

I wonder why it's only the A300 and 757?

I believe it's because they believe they can support this in leisure markets. In the Caribbean, AA can fill those aircraft anyway so why not stick another row or two in. The primary point is to better economically serve leisure/vacation markets.
 
YoungDon
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RE: Mrtc On AA On Its Way Out... Partially...

Thu May 22, 2003 9:32 am

That is so sad, but I guess its necessary.

I feel sorry for all those poor tall coach travelers...hehe... oops sorry!  Innocent
 
ScottB
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RE: Mrtc On AA On Its Way Out... Partially...

Thu May 22, 2003 9:35 am

The reason for the A300's being reconfigured is that they fly primarily high-density leisure/VFR routes from the Northeast to Miami, and from Miami to the Caribbean/Central & South America. In fact, they already carry more seats than AA's 777's, since they only have three rows of domestic-style business class; everything else is coach. I imagine they'll be able to get at least another 4-5 rows in the A300's, giving an "intimate" capacity of nearly 300.

I would imagine that the reconfigured 757's will be dedicated to high density U.S. routes which see significant low-fare competition, as well as a good number of Caribbean/Central & South America routes.

My guess is that AA will then concentrate the F100's, Super 80's, and domestic 767 fleet on higher margin routes from the hubs and higher-yielding non-hub flights (like, say, BOS-LAX or JFK-SFO).

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