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LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Wed May 28, 2003 9:53 pm

On average, how often are the aircraft operating on low-cost, no-frills flights cleaned? Once every day perhaps? How long does this process roughly take?
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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Wed May 28, 2003 9:56 pm

I don't know, but are you IMPLYING something with this question?
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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Wed May 28, 2003 10:01 pm

LOL no, I'm not implying anything! In fact, I've flown on two LCCs and on two flights, both of which being as clean and tidy as any full-frills airlines that I have travelled on.

I am just wondering in terms of efficiency.  Smile
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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Wed May 28, 2003 10:12 pm

In Europe, they're cleaned by the pax! Haven't you had the flight attendent come through the plane during the descent with a big bin liner, collecting rubbish?
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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Wed May 28, 2003 10:16 pm

At AirTran, all aircraft are cleaned (including lavatories and vacuuming/sweeping) each time they pass through Atlanta. More thorough cleaning is done on overnight stops. The F/As tidy-up between flights. Overnights at Atlanta get heavy cleaning and a wash & wax on the outside.
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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Wed May 28, 2003 10:16 pm

Hmm now that you mention it, Cedarjet, I think I probably do remember that! So there's no hoovering the floors or anything?
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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Wed May 28, 2003 10:53 pm

Pe@rson - as previously stated, the PASSENGERS hoover the floors  Laugh out loud
 
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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Wed May 28, 2003 11:02 pm

With cost cuttings, Ryanair passengers have to lick the windows clean and take their shoes off upon boarding.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Wed May 28, 2003 11:03 pm

lol!! They might hand over any rubbish to the attendants, but come on - they don't literally hoover the floor! Big grin What would happen if something got trodden into the floor? How often are the toilets cleaned?
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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Wed May 28, 2003 11:05 pm

Toilets.............?  Laugh out loud.

I'd imagine, at the end of the aircrafts 'service' for the day, the aircraft will be given a more thorough clean. Then again, Ryanair never ceases to amaze me... I'm sure Mr. O'leary will try and convince us that these NG 737's actually clean themselves!  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Wed May 28, 2003 11:10 pm

at the end of the aircrafts 'service' for the day, the aircraft will be given a more thorough clean.

That's what I would have thought, although during a short turnaround, say 20-30 minutes, the attendants could perhaps go around and collect any rubbish not handed in by the passengers and give the toilet a quick clean.

Incidentally, EGGD, I've flown from BRS twice, one flight being aboard GO.
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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Thu May 29, 2003 1:02 am

The boys for ATA may correct me but I believe ATA's aircraft are cleaned almost every time the arrive at a destination. More heavy cleaning is done at IND and MDW.
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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Thu May 29, 2003 1:18 am

I wonder how long it would take to quickly clean a 733. In addition to the passengers passing any rubbish they have toward the end of the flight, I guess the FAs could quickly pick up any other rubbish and clean the toilet during each turnaround. The aircraft's interior could then be cleaned more thoroughly at the end of its day's schedule, by which time there would hopefully not be that much to clean and thus the cleaning would not take too long.

I also wonder how much it would cost to properly clean a 733, taking into account the need for cleaners (probably subcontractors); cleaning materials; the cost of parking; the fact that the aircraft isn't flying; and suchlike.
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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Thu May 29, 2003 2:26 am

The flight attendants clean the planes on Virgin Blue.
 
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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Thu May 29, 2003 2:36 am

At WestJet, the customer service agents run through with a hokey (a small non powered vacuum type thing) to pick up crumbs and pieces of trash. The rest of the crew helps out to cross seat belts and pick the large trash out of the pockets. Also, employees traveling on STBY are required to help at least to cross the seatbelts (hey, these planes belong to all of us!) The provisioning agents (CARA in YYZ) take the trash bags out and all this is done during our 30-45 min turn. It is not uncommon to see Pilots, CSA's, F/A's and Maintenance cleaning the plane, all at the same time... WestJet saves money and we see it in our profit sharing cheques. Of course at night, we have a regular crew that comes in to do a much more thorough clean.

I hope that helps.

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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Thu May 29, 2003 5:24 am

A "turn clean" is done at every arrival and "heavy cleans" are assigned to different stations nightly according to where the aircraft terminates. With the new fleet and all leather seats they are getting extra special attention.
 
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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Thu May 29, 2003 11:33 am

Fly_ATA,

Who does this cleaning at outstations -- TZ CSAs or the ground handler? What is the extent of the outstation heavy cleans? I looked on the employee web site, but couldn't find anything about this; is it in the ACSM or GSM?

In C8 land, CSAs do it all...including cleaning the cargo bin as per the latest 2 page cleaning checklist.

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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Thu May 29, 2003 1:56 pm

Yeah we have to sweep out the cargo bin at night!!! One of the craziest things that i have ever heard but if corporate says so. I also found it funny that "Dust the Instrument Panel" was one there (even thought outstations don't have to do it) I must say since all the outstations started the heavier cleaning the C8 planes are looking mighty good and clean now.
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RE: LCCs- How Often Are They Cleaned?

Thu May 29, 2003 2:41 pm

I was about to suggest that since an LCC is a "large crude carrier" this belonged in the non-av forum.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

It reminds me to go look at LCCs.

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