corocks
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Transferring Luggage?

Thu May 29, 2003 12:10 am

I have a stupid question that I should know the answer to, but just can't remember.

If you are connecting from one Airline to another, where the tickets are booked on 2 seperate reservations, will your luggage transfer?

I am flying CO from IAH-CDG and then AF from CDG-ATH. Will my luggage go all the way or will I have to claim and recheck it. Also, if I have to recheck, anyone know the amount of time I would need between flights to pull this off at CDG -- I currently have a 2:15 hour layover.

Thanks
 
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RE: Transferring Luggage?

Thu May 29, 2003 12:20 am

Yes provided you are already holding a ticket for the connecting flight and its not a Low-cost-no-frills carrier you can check your luggage to final destination

the luggage tag/barcode with your ticket number printed will be given to you (that is why u need a paper ticket or some sort of ticket number/ref number for it).

feel free to correct me if i am wrong.
 
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RE: Transferring Luggage?

Thu May 29, 2003 12:21 am

Last NOvember, my wife flew UAL from MCI-ORD and then Iberia from ORD-MAD, and she did have to claim and recheck her baggage.
 
777guy
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RE: Transferring Luggage?

Thu May 29, 2003 12:25 am

You need to check and see if your originating airline has an interline deal with the second carrier. In the case of Iberia they codeshare with AA and not UL.
 
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RE: Transferring Luggage?

Thu May 29, 2003 12:55 am

777guy - that's true that AA is a partner with Iberia, but neither AA nor Iberia would offer an itenerary from MCI-SVQ. That being the case, I was unwilling to take the risk of "hoping for the best" by purchasing an MCI-ORD ticket and hoping against hope that AA would route the luggage over to Iberia for the ORD-SVQ leg. I would have preferred booking on AA, but I booked on UAL because at the time, they seemed like they needed the cash worse.
 
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RE: Transferring Luggage?

Thu May 29, 2003 1:04 am

Most airlines interline with each other, but the point here is that for some reason there are two separate tickets and officially you cannot make a through check-in with them because they are classified as two separate journies. It is always beneficial to book your total itinerary with the first carrier, who will issue a complete ticket. The whole itinerary is then in one booking and the receiving carrier(s) are given the inbound and outbound flight details.

Even if you have two tickets on the same airline on different bookings, they should not check you in for the whole journey, but they probably will. In addition Customs in some countries insist that the bags must be cleared at the first arrival point (JFK) and not at the destination of say, LAX. In GB that is not the ruling - you can transfer and connect over LHR and clear your bags in MAN for example!
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777guy
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RE: Transferring Luggage?

Thu May 29, 2003 1:06 am

I am with you Goingboeing, I am willing to make the extra effort to save the money too.  Big thumbs up
 
corocks
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RE: Transferring Luggage?

Thu May 29, 2003 1:44 am

The reason that it is two seperate journies/tickets is because both tickets were purchased with Frequent Flier miles on the sererate airlines, so I had no choice.
 
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RE: Transferring Luggage?

Thu May 29, 2003 4:32 am

I am flying CO from IAH-CDG and then AF from CDG-ATH. Will my luggage go all the way or will I have to claim and recheck it. Also, if I have to recheck, anyone know the amount of time I would need between flights to pull this off at CDG -- I currently have a 2:15 hour layover.


One thing to keep in mind is that while the two carriers must have an interline baggage agreement, the time between flights must be within their published minimum connect time.

The minimum connecting time varies, depending on the airport, carriers involved, and whether you're going between solely domestic flights or traveling internationally.

In your example above, going from a CO international flight to an AF international flight, connecting at CDG, there is a 2 hour minimum connect time. This means that if you've allowed yourself LESS than this amount, CO would not check your bag all the way through, as they'd be opening themselves up to liability for loss if your bag (or you) didn't make it.

Since you've got enough time to satisfy CDG's minimum connect time for this itinerary, and since the two carriers DO have an interline baggage agreement, presenting BOTH tickets to the CO agent at EWR should result in them tagging the bag to your final destination.

As was previously noted, however, some cities require transit customers like yourself to claim your bag to clear customs before being rechecked to your next flight. If this is the case, it's a fairly simple process.
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RE: Transferring Luggage?

Thu May 29, 2003 7:08 am

I'm doing almost the same thing, DTW-EWR-CDG-FLR. The CDG-FLR is on Alitalia but operated by Air France. I have E-tickets on CO and paper an Alitalia/AF my guess is they will allow the transfer, but worst that could happen is they say nope.

I did call CO and they said I would have to check in my bags for the other flights at the Alitalia desk right outside Customs at CDG.

So who knows.
 
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RE: Transferring Luggage?

Thu May 29, 2003 8:07 am

Just ask the agent on the day. Some agents will do it, but others won't as it means they have to do a bit more work to add the onward flight details into you record before they check you in, so hope you get a nice one.

As you are on seperate tickets tho, you will have to present both to the agent when you first check-in so they can add the onward details should they do it for you. (Although they do not have to do it especially if you have less than MCT).

If they do thru check the bags, (but don't issue a b/pass) then you will have to show the agent at the transfer point your bags tag receipts so they can be added into that airlines system. If you have are issued with a b/pass for the onward flight, then the bag details should be transferred automatically.

Enjoy the trip.

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RE: Transferring Luggage?

Thu May 29, 2003 12:08 pm

When luggage is transferred from one airline to another, it is often handled by a third party. If at your final destination, your luggage does not show up, the only proof you have is the claim check from the first airline you checked your luggage with. Then they have to try and determine what happened and if it made it to your connecting city and on to your final destination. Good luck trying to pin the blame on which airline is responsible.

It is my personal policy that when I change airlines, I check my luggage to my connecting city, claim it and then check it in with my connecting airline. At least I know that if it does not show up at the connecting city, the first airline is responsible for it. Also I know my luggage is not sitting around in some baggage area waiting for the connecting flight to arrive where it can be stolen or opened. This could be a real problem when your connecting city is in a different country than your departure and final destination.
 
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RE: Transferring Luggage?

Thu May 29, 2003 12:29 pm

You're best bet is to call CO and AF. They will be able to answer your question.



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RE: Transferring Luggage?

Thu May 29, 2003 11:44 pm

One things you´ll need to be careful about: Though CO will let you have 2 pieces weighing 70 pounds each, AF European flights that are NOT booked together with a US-France flight only allow about 50 pounds or so TOTAL(the paper ticket should give the weight in kilograms).

Besides that, they should check your baggage through. I´ve done it with several airline combinations with separate tickets without any problems: AC-BW, BW-UA, BW-AY,BW-BA, BA-AY, SK-UA, AA-AA, CO-DL. I´ve even been able to rebook for free after a missed connection (once January 2001 and once March 2003), though that probably is not the norm. My parents have also done it AirTran-BA, AirTran being an exception among the LoCos.
 
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RE: Transferring Luggage?

Fri May 30, 2003 12:58 am

Even if the psgr has a separate PNR on another Airline you can still put his other airline flt segments into your airline's PNR. We have psgr travel from OKC-THR and they'll go OKC-MEM (NW) MEM-AMS (KL) AMS-THR (IR). We will check their bags all the way to THR and then we will put their IR flt seg. Into their Northwest PNR showing it as a conf. seg. This way when the Psgr gets to AMS KL will know that they have a conx psgr to IR going to THR. Plus we will check their bag all the way to THR. The only time we will not check a bag to the final destination is if the psgr is staying in the txfr city for over 12hrs. If you are taking 2 different or even 3 different Airlines make sure you tell that tkt agt that you want your bag checked all the way to the final dest. IF He or she says no and you have your tkt's showing that your flying that way then ask for the supervisor, cause that agt doesn't know what he is doing. If a Manager finds out that you short checked a bag he will be all over your A$$ cause that will go against his Luggage stats.
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RE: Transferring Luggage?

Fri May 30, 2003 5:48 am

Oh we have done it with SYD-LAX on QF to LAX-MSP on NW, MSP-ORD on NW then ORD-MXP on AZ and the opposite.
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