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Emirates Gains Rights To Fly Aust-NZ

Thu May 29, 2003 10:46 am

Emirates granted right to fly trans-Tasman

SYDNEY - The Australian government has granted Emirates Airlines the right to fly trans-Tasman routes from any port in Australia.

Few details were available this morning on the decision, but the Australian Financial Review said Federal Transport Minister John Anderson had knocked back the airline's application to fly twice a day from Sydney to Dubai.

However, Emirates will be able to operate twice daily services to Dubai from Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth to take effect from October.

The decision to allow Dubai-based Emirates to fly trans-Tasman routes out of Australia will provide extra competition, which both Qantas and Air New Zealand have conceded in their updated bid to get their equity deal approved by competition regulators in Australia and New Zealand.

Air New Zealand spokesman Glen Sowry said Emirates would be joining several other airlines offering services across the Tasman, the Daily Telegraph reported.

But whether there will be enough competition against an Air NZ-Qantas operation to satisfy the regulators remains to be seen.

Emirates can already fly to New Zealand under an open skies agreement with the United Arab Emirates, but up until now Australia had refused permission for it to fly the trans-Tasman routes.

The decision not to allow it Sydney-Dubai service is likely to have been made to appease Qantas, which wants to protect its position on the so-called "kangaroo" route to London.

Mr Anderson has agreed to reconsider the Emirates' Sydney-Dubai request within 12 months.


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RE: Emirates Gains Rights To Fly Aust-NZ

Thu May 29, 2003 1:41 pm

Good news for EK, good news for New Zealand. Looks like AKL will be joining the ANZ network next year. Since the EK aircraft usually stay all day in SYD and MEL, one of these should easily be able to make the crossing. The SYD acft would probably be better, as it arrives at around 7am, where the MEL aircraft arrives there late at night.

Looking forward to the announcement of next year's routes . . .
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RE: Emirates Gains Rights To Fly Aust-NZ

Thu May 29, 2003 4:13 pm

What about a Dubai-Perth-Auckland routing? Air NZ seems to be doing very well on the route, with pretty good loads from what I understand. I doubt many people will want to fly 2 stops to Europe (ie. via MEL or SYD). I know people do on Thai, but Thai also offers extremely cheap airfares, which I don't think EK is in the habit of doing. Should be interesting though, as EK has far more connections to Europe than the east Asian carriers.
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RE: Emirates Gains Rights To Fly Aust-NZ

Thu May 29, 2003 8:05 pm

This news item was posted about 2 days ago but subsequently deleted 3 times. Could one of the moderators explain the reasoning behind this? There appeared to be nothing in the post that broke any rules?

I replied to the first post about being surprised by the fact that Virgin Blue had yet to start a "whinging" campaign. It would now appear that the minister for QF has now entered the scene and thrown his weight behind protecting QF.

Hmmm, 1 minute they want competition, the next minute there ducking for cover. It would appear that EK might just be too much competition.


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RE: Emirates Gains Rights To Fly Aust-NZ

Thu May 29, 2003 8:37 pm

I doubt if they will do PER-AKL, not least because the PER schedule is a good fit, arriving at 17.30 and leaving at about 11pm; that's good compared to the all day stays at MEL and SYD.
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RE: Emirates Gains Rights To Fly Aust-NZ

Thu May 29, 2003 9:20 pm

The original post was deleted because of copyright.

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Hope the above helps.

I am also waiting for the Virgin Blue whinge, but this time they might be agreeing with Qantas

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RE: Emirates Gains Rights To Fly Aust-NZ

Thu May 29, 2003 11:14 pm

Well we know where one of those 45 380s they have on order can go now  Smile
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RE: Emirates Gains Rights To Fly Aust-NZ

Fri May 30, 2003 10:31 am

With SYD not being double daily I think you can be pretty safe in assuming that any trans Tasman flights will not be through SYD. It would be eating into the capacity for SYD too much, especially when they can offer double daily flights from the other Australian ports they serve.
What it may mean however is that SYD will most likely get 380's if this rule still applies, as they will want to have as much capacity with the single flight, the down side is, will the 380 make it direct to Dubai or will it require a stop ??? as SYD will be getting the 345's when they commence ops.
My money is on a MEL/AKL run with a 345, and the other MEL flight if it happens being a 332 via SIN until demand is sufficient, which it is not at present.

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