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Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Sun Jun 01, 2003 3:54 pm

Interesting development, will they be the first East Asian carrier to serve Almaty? or did Asiana fly there first?;

Cathay to fly to Moscow, Almaty

By Masood Anwar

KARACHI: Cathay Pacific Airways is including Moscow and Almaty in its flight map and terms and conditions in this regard will be finalised during a visit of the airline's delegation to Moscow next week.

Happy Minwala, Manager Cathay Pacific for Pakistan, Afghanistan and Central Asian Independent States (CIS) said while unfolding the Airways' expansion plan, it is sound and feasible to start operations to Russia and CIS.

"I am going to Moscow next week for final negotiations," he said adding "there is a big possibility that Karachi will be the transit point for Cathay to fly to CIS."

Pakistan has large traffic for Russia and CIS. When Aeroflot operated from Pakistan, it would have 16-18 flights per week for Moscow, he added. Minwala dismissed the impression Cathay has any problems with flying rights for operation from Pakistan to West and South.

"We have equal rights," he said. The Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) is planning to make West Coast next year after obtaining new Boeing-777 planes and it has no option except Hong Kong to go to Los Angeles or San Francisco.

"We have no objection to the PIA move. The airline is free to go anywhere from Hong Kong except Chinese airports," he made clear adding PIA is prohibited to fly within China from Hong Kong. Cathay is enjoying similar facilities in Pakistan, he added.

Minwala foresaw big potential in Russia, as he said there is no direct flight from Pakistan and Far East. He termed the new flight plan a new boost for the Airways.

Other News:

Cathay Pacific Airways has launched a business promotion programme to cope with the crisis gripping the Hong Kong territory due to the SARS epidemic.

The new business promotion program offered one ticket free for every business class ticket. This offer is valid for Hong Kong, Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur and Japan.

The airways offered free ticket for a child (up to 12 years) for economy class, ticket for the destinations of Hong Kong, Bangkok, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Australia and Auckland.

Happy Minwala, manager for Pakistan, Afghanistan and Central Independent States, while unveiling the airways plan at the Karachi Press Club on Saturday said that the World Health Organisation lifted it's travel advisory on Hong Kong last week and SARS is now under complete control.

SARS has badly affected Cathay business. Before the outbreak, around 35,000 passengers used Cathay every day for their travel. However due to SARS, this figure has dropped to 8,000 a day, he informed.

The nosedive drop in the number of passengers forced the airways to cut its flight operation by 45 per cent.

For Pakistan, the number of passengers was 200 a week that plunged to 70 passengers.

Now the situation is improving and figures for Pakistan are touching 146 passengers, Minwala said.

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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Sun Jun 01, 2003 6:10 pm

Very interesting. I know one of our staff is going over to Moscow shortly to help with the set up of the office there but did not know about Almaty!
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Sun Jun 01, 2003 6:56 pm

"We have no objection to the PIA move."

I wonder why?  Smile
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Sun Jun 01, 2003 7:15 pm

Sounds good! I would love to be able to visit Moscow, after learning so much about modern Russian history, just have to see the place for myself  Smile
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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Sun Jun 01, 2003 8:57 pm

*gasp*

Cathay is flying to Moscow!!!! Woot! Now there's another option to fly from HK to Moscow!

I hope SIA will be next. There is so much potential in the Russia market.
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Sun Jun 01, 2003 9:09 pm

What a pleasant surprise from CXSmokin cool
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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Sun Jun 01, 2003 9:35 pm

SIA has proved that Moscow is not a profitable destination for them (At least for Cargo)

At least customers would have another choice out of Aeroflot and I believe CX is much more superior to them in terms of service and safety (An Aeroflot A310 crashed enroute to HKG in 1994).

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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Sun Jun 01, 2003 9:44 pm

I'm surprised why Cathay does not fly to Copenhagen or Zurich though. I thought those destinations have a high traffic to HKG?

Anyway, bounce back Cathay!!!
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Sun Jun 01, 2003 9:46 pm

AEROFLOT is safe, except for that one A310 going down, and some minor incidents.....Uhh...That 747-400 looks very worn... not really, but if you look closely.
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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Sun Jun 01, 2003 10:10 pm

What equipment and routing will they use? I wonder if Paksitan will be upgraded to a 744 that would be great if they choose to serve Moscow via Karachi. Any idea why Aeroflot and PIA quit the Moscow-Pakistan routes? PK quit in 97 they were using a 742 going onto Manchester and SU quit in 99-2000 they used an A310 to Karachi and Dubai as well as Lahore.
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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Mon Jun 02, 2003 9:01 am

Airbus 343 gets my vote. a 747 or even a 777 will be too big. But you never know!
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Wed Jun 04, 2003 4:20 am

I guess Almaty will get an A330, when do these services begin?
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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Wed Jun 04, 2003 10:45 am

There has been nothing official announced by Cathay about either of these routes. I know Moscow has been on the wish-list, but maybe for a couple of years down the line. Almaty has never even been mentionned. Maybe this will turn into another Honolulu or Tehran.
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Wed Jun 04, 2003 11:55 am

A few years down the line? Sigh....
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Wed Jun 04, 2003 5:36 pm

CX are the only major North East Asian carrier not flying to Russia, JAL, ANA, Korean Air, Air China and China Airlines are all there, what about Asiana and EVA Air?
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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:29 pm

I don’t see CX serving either of these destinations, at least not for a very long time. Even after things return to normal when SARS passes, CX will be very conservative in their expansion (they are a very conservative airline in general). They have to restore their route network first, before even thinking about adding new destinations.

How cool would it be if CX served Tehran? They would have to rely on fifth freedom traffic (direct HKG-THR-HKG isn’t feasible), perhaps via DXB, JED or RUH?

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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Thu Jun 05, 2003 1:49 am

No, ANA and China Airlines DOES NOT fly to Moscow. And I suspect Air China too. But I might be wrong.

If China Airlines does fly to Moscow... it'll be great, 'cos their fares are dirt cheap.
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Thu Jun 05, 2003 3:02 am

They have to be dirt cheap otherwise who would fly them!!
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Thu Jun 05, 2003 4:25 am

Remember that lots of these routes are negotiated, but it doesn't mean airlines will fly them. I don't see Almaty being a runner (although a 333IGW could handle it?), but I could see 343s doing Moscow. That would be a great route to fly; the 343 would be ideal for freight and would be able to feed into CX's extensive HKG hub.

Glad to see CX is recovering too.
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Thu Jun 05, 2003 3:44 pm

China Airlines do fly charters to Moscow with an A340 and they're planning to make them scheduled services in the future.
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RE: Cathay Pacific To Add Russia And Kazakhstan

Thu Jun 05, 2003 5:03 pm

Air China also fly to Moscow with a 767-200ER. Found the info at their website.
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