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Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 1:26 am

Incident=engine failure, etc.

Just curious
 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 1:28 am

I met a man a couple of months back who'd just survived his third air crash.
 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 1:36 am

No, although I've been on a few flights where the turbulence was so bad that I thought we were going to go down. My ass cheeks have swallowed seat cushions on a Reno Air MD-80, a Continental 757, and an America West A320.
 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:08 am

I had the left main gear on a 737 collapse on roll-out once...


...but it was only in the full-motion simulator.
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:24 am

I was on the United 777 in this incident on June 3, 2001. It was a thud sound and slight jolt but I've felt harder jolts moving on bumpy taxiways. There was more than "slight damage" to the Lufthansa 747 tail section. The most interesting thing about this was seeing the reaction of one of the flight attendants. She was totally freaked out and kept saying "We crashed into another airplane!!!" The passengers were much calmer than she was.

http://www.ananova.com/business/story/sm_323670.html
 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:40 am

Aircraft decompression on a 777- not fun.
 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:47 am

On now deceased Nationair, back in 1987 or 1988, in a Super DC-8 from YMX to FLL, we lost cabin pressure at around 20000 feet, just after take-off. The masks came down and we made an abrupt dive to 8000 feet. I think this dive took no more than 5 minutes. Anyway, everyone in the cabin was in panic, even the FAs!!! We made it back to YMX and it took 4-5 hours for the mechanics to fix the problem. When it was time to leave, 25-30 pax refused to board the plane! They should have, Nationair gave the booze up for free to compensate for the incident...
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:49 am

Start abort on an American Airlines B772 JFK-LHR.
Hydraulic problems/gear problems at the start.

 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:57 am

After thousands of flights, nope. One go around, two barely noticed lightening strikes and some turbulence. That's it.

"I met a man a couple of months back who'd just survived his third air crash." Impossible.
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 3:18 am

No crashes, a couple of incidents.

I was on a Pan Am 747 on take off from MIA that had the No. 2 fail just after lift off. The airplane went out over the Atlantic and dumped 126,000 pounds of fuel before returning to MIA for an uneventful landing. There were about 10 or 12 fire trucks waiting for us to land. We talked to the Captain later having identified ourselves as P&W employees and he said that in 26 years of flying Boeing jets with Pratt engines, 22,000 hours of flying, that was the first time he had ever had an engine failure. It was a really hot day and this was when Pan Am was tankering fuel to Europe. The Captain said that they had the fuel dump swith guard up just in case they had lost an engine between V1 and VR they would start dumping fuel right there on the runway to get the weight off the airplane.

I was on a Delta 727 that had a hydraulic failure at CVG and we taxied into a snow bank.

And I was on an American MD-80 that had a lightning strike going into SNA.

But I worked for a guy who was in the three crashes, all at MCI. In each of the three times he flew into MCI, the plane crashed. One was an undershoot and the other two were overruns. After the third crash whenever he had to work at MCI, he flew into STL and rented a car to drive over to MCI.
 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 3:48 am

"I met a man a couple of months back who'd just survived his third air crash." Impossible.

Cedarjet: How is that impossible? It was never mentioned what type of crash, and for all we know, these were 3 general aviation crashes. While unlikely, it is certainly possible for this to happen. Please get the facts before making comments.

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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 3:57 am

Had an emergency in a UH-1 flight sim once. Had a (real) cockpit fire! We wasted NO time in opening the doors and getting out of there. (the sim comes off motion as soon as the doors are opened)
 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 4:32 am

No crashes thankfully. I haven't even really experienced severe turbulence, which I'm equally thankful for. My lone incident was an aborted takeoff on a PHX-BWI HP 757. Turns out the altimeter failed during the roll. Not a big deal, but still a little scary since as passengers we had no idea what was going on.

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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 5:07 am

No actual incidents for me... LOTS of turbulence in Jetstream 41s though!

I actually was in an L1011 landing in ATL that pulled up just a few feet from the runway, and did a go around because there was another aircraft that look a little longer than anticipated to clear the active runway.

My ex-fiance is an F/A for UAL and was on a 763 leaving JFK for LHR when the aircraft lost an engine to compressor stalls (from what I understand there were flames or something coming out of the back, but I don't remember all of the details). The pilots did what they were supposed to do, and came back and landed it just fine.

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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 5:34 am

I knew someone who died on US427 and survived on US1493.
 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 6:24 am

Just an engine failure and return to field for me as a passenger (MD-80).
 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 6:36 am

Back in 1977 we were flying back from Tangier in a British Airtours 707 -400. During the take off run one of the RR Conways threw some compressor blades and we did a full abort(!) on the runway. We were stuck in Tangier for 17 hours waiting for a replacement.
A few years later I was at a British Motor Racing Marshals Club training day at Donnington Park race circuit when a British Midland F27 on a training flight from East Midlands undershot and hit the circuit perimiter wall. The rescue unit teams went into the wreckage to stabilise the crew whilst the rest of us threw a fire cordon arond the wreck 'till the airport rescue services arrived. The rescue unit teams all recieved Royal Humane Society awards for their prompt actions in saving the lives of the crew.
Never been put off flying though.
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 6:37 am

"I met a man a couple of months back who'd just survived his third air crash." Impossible.

Yeah, whatever you say  Insane

For the less smug among you, he was still walking with a cane when I met him in London, recovering from the injuries sustained in the third accident in October 2001. He's reasonably well known in the aerospace industry but I'm going to blank his name from the news report from the Tulsa World.



CRASH SURVIVORS TELL OF ORDEAL

Survivors of a Canadian plane crash that took the lives of two Tulsans tell a story of heroism and a bone-chilling wait in icy water after the accident, the pilot who brought three of the men back to Tulsa said Wednesday.

Tulsa business and community leaders Charles Ryan and James W. Pielsticker were killed in the crash about 5:30 pm CDT Monday.

Ryan, 50, was the president and chief operating officer of the Nordam Group. Pielsticker, 63, was president and chief executive officer of Arrow Trucking. The Canadian pilot, identified as Alexandre Meunier, also died in the crash.

Ryan and Pielsticker were among a party of 11 people who went on a caribou hunting trip to Canada on Sunday. The single-engine plane, called a Beaver, crashed as it was about to land on Lake Mollet, roughly 100 miles inland from the Hudson Bay in the province of Quebec.

*********, president of ********, remained in Montreal General Hospital on Wednesday. He suffered two broken legs in the crash and underwent surgery Tuesday.




 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 6:40 am

Northwest 727 Engine Failure on takeoff role, aborted
Engine fire on DL 727- Landed with emergency at LGA years ago.
Lightning Strike on AA A300
 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 6:42 am

Other than severe turbulence, the only real incident I've experienced was in 1993 from ATL-LGA on a DL 727-200. During decent the captain came on the P.A. and told us that he was recieving a low oil pressure light in the #1 engine. He considered diverting to JFK (for the long runway), but instead we continued to LGA where we landed safely as a flock of firetrucks looked on.
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 7:51 am

I guess most people who are in planes that actually crash don't live to tell about them. Those who survive are REALLY lucky. I think turbulence is the biggest threat to PAX and crew safety. I've had 3 expriences with severve turbulence in my 4 years of flying.

Our manual describes it as: "Large, abrupt changes in A/C attitude. Customers are forced violently against restraints. Unsecured objects are tossed about. Food service and walking are not possible."

And thats just what it feels like. It's really scary when PAX are screaming, overhead bins start popping open, and things begin to fly around the galley's. The last time was on a 777 JFK-LHR, it was so bad that the airplane was taken out of service. Then you get to fill out a nice little survey for NASA.

Other than that I've had missed approaches and 1 near miss while descending into ELP. A small airplane went off course or something and almost hit our S80. That wasn't scary at the time, but when I saw how freaked out the CPT (who was a check airman training a new FO) was I got retroactively scared. I was the only one on the crew who actually saw the plane and he kept grilling me about what it looked like, where I saw it and such. But then he took us over-the-border for Margaritas and we all calmed down.
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 8:01 am

Passenger door came open on an Aer Lingus DC3 DUB-LPL 1958

Starways (UK) DC3 struck two approach light towers while landing at Blackpool in 1961.

Went through a hedge in an overrun at the old Derby (Baginton) airfield in a Proctor 1962

Landed at wrong airport (Abbotsinch instead of Renfrew) in a PA22 1963

Inadvertant deployment of an escape slide on a BOAC 747 at ZRH in 1972

Severe turbulence injuring two flight attendants on a CO DC 10 AKL-HNL in 1990 (they and their meal cart hit the ceiling)

Undercarriage collapse on landing in an Eagle Airways Bandeirante AKL 1995

Wheel detached during taxi UA 747 MEL 1996

Attempted hijacking NAN AirNZ 767 1997(?)

Plus weather related go rounds

WLG in Air NZ F27 (twice)
WLG in Air NZ 737 (twice)
CHC in Air NZ 737 (three times)
HKK in Air NZ F27 (4 times)
HKK in Air Nelson Metroliner
WSZ in Air NZ F27 (twice)
GLA in UA 767
HLZ in Air NZ F27 (twice)
DEN (Stapleton) in UA 727

Plus one runway incursion related go round

LHR in BA 777









 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 8:13 am

A couple of go-arounds, some moderate turbulence and thats it  Smile
 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 8:21 am

On 2 separate occasions I had aborted take off on the L1011's on one Eastern and the other on ATA. And once on AA while on a flight from SYD to HNL the forward cabins toilet kept over flowing and causing the lights to flicker, we were 3 and 1/2 hours into the flight so the Caption decided to turn around dump fuel and land back in SYD, AA over nighted and fed us and we tried this flight again the next day. This time with no problems. My passport was even stamped Did not depart!
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 8:58 am

Not really a problem with the aircraft itself. . .but back in 1997, aborted take-off on BA 744 MEX-LGW, because the Popocatepetl Volcano erupted and there was an ash cloud right over the airport. An LH 744 took of before us, and about ten seconds after we had started our own roll, the pilot aborted takeoff and explained the ash cloud was too dangerous. As soon as he said this, ash started falling from the sky. . .I was stranded for 24 hours.

Other than this and two incidents with severe turbulence (carts and flight attendants flying), nothing really.

 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 9:19 am

Hi!

My dad was on a Continental flight that had an engine fire light come on departing DEN. They came back around and landed. All of the PAX and crew exited the via the escape slides. My dad said it was really fun going down the slides (note: he is a private and commercially rated pilot).

I have been in a number of incidents, which isn't unusual, considering that I'm a pilot.

However, one time my brother and I were driving down a highway in Maryland, when our Chevrolet (which is a big reason I don't like American cars) burst into flames. It was an electrical fire, and we had to open the hatchback, get out tools, and then open the hood and disconnect the battery to get it to stop. This was just the most extreme quality control failure that I experienced with this sorry excuse for a car.

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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 9:52 am

Sounds like you drive a POS, sucks for you.

"I have been in a number of incidents, which isn't unusual, considering that I'm a pilot"

umm, I sorta disagree with you on that. Either you are a very unsafe pilot or you fly aircraft that have received very poor maintanence. I to am a pilot and cant say I have been involved in a number of incidents!
 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:09 am

Nothing too significant here except for 2 or 3 aborted takeoffs in a Fairchild Metro at the SDY airport. The runway we were taking off on was only 4,000 feet so it was a rush when the pilots went to "reverse prop" or changed the pitch to slow us faster and used the breaks heavily.

The problem was an indicator light for the rear baggage door coming on during the roll. As some may know, thats a pretty damn vital piece of the plane on a Metro- don't want to lose your tail section now  Big grin We had to wait about an hour or two for a mechanic to come before it worked out.
 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:38 am

I was in a TWA 727 landing at DTW when we initiated go around power just before flare. The pilot announced that we were aborting because of a runway incursion. I couldn't really tell anything secondarily abnormal had happened, but a 747 captain sitting next to me said he thought he detected something a bit different. Turned out that we also lost #2 engine when we throttled up for the go-around. I don't think anybody in the cabin except my seat-mate was aware of it (I certainly wasn't). The incursion was another airliner taxiing across our active. Nothing traumatic, but a lot of paperwork, I'll betcha.

Still at altitude from DTW-MIA on an MD-80, and admiring the vehicle assembly building at Cape Canaveral below, the aircraft shook with a loud boom. There were a lot of whitened faces in the cabin, but the captain immediately announced no worry, we had only "stretched the speed envelope a bit". I'm not entirely sure of that presentation and perhaps an airliner driver could expand on his explanation. I know we didn't go Mach I, but will a jet airliner do this when flying past max-designed Mach?...Jack
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:52 am

July 20th, 2002-On board a DL MD-88 in the landing pattern for ATL when all of the sudden the gear started to cycle, the flaps began to retract a bit. We went to full power and made an immediate bank and climb. Pilot came on once we were clear and said that we were vectored into the pattern incorrectly and subsequently were following very close to the aircraft in front of us.

December 31, 2002- DL 1966 ATL-SAN 767-300ER. Overhead bin came down while we were roaring down the runway at SAN. The gentlemen a few rows ahead of us, where the bin came down, unbuckled his seat belt, was in a sort of sit/stand position in his seat, and slammed the bin up into it's place. Subsequently on that same flight we experienced moderate turbulence during our cruise. It came up suddenly and threw a lady to the floor as she was exiting the lav. The captain came on and requested that the F/A's ended their meal service, and take an immediate seat. Pretty rought flight. Still remember looking out and seeing the wings being shaken up and down, and those sudden thuds that come when you hit a good pocket of air.

Other than that, I've had a few other bumpy flights....those are just fresh on my mind because they happened last year.

Bryan
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 11:10 am

Electrical cockpit fire on board a Cessna 210 and having to make emergency landing on a public highway.
 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 12:26 pm

I'd like to start out by saying that I have hardly any details from this incident, as I was a little young to remember many details (February 19, 1995). I was on a NW flight from MSP to LGA on an A320. Shortly after takeoff, an instrument/system in the cockpit failed (I don't think it was specified as to which instrument/system it was). Since it was just after takeoff, I suppose we dumped fuel, but to be honest, I do not remember much between the time the problem was announced to when we landed. I think our landing was fine, but an image that will be etched into my mind forever was looking down the ramp, seeing many emergency vehicles speeding down the ramp to get to our plane at the gate (not really sure why). We then were switched to a DC9 for our flight to LGA. And guess which NW A320 it was? Oh, none other than the one that "ran away" at Las Vegas.  Big grin (N305US)


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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 1:45 pm

Expratt do you remember the name of the PA 747? I was on an ex AA 747 bought by Pan Am named Clipper Beacon Light when we blew an engine on landing at Rome in June 1983. As the crew started engine reverse there was a loud bang and a sheet of flame shot back from the engine. Our departure from JFK was delayed 4.5 hrs due to T-storms and mechanics inspecting #3 engine. Whatever they did didn't solve the problem No doubt the return flight back to JFK was delayed or cancelled. We landed at FCO coming in from the north and took quite a while to taxi to our remote stand. Most gate positions were taken by Alitalia aircraft as well as one TWA 747.
 
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:49 pm

"I have been in a number of incidents, which isn't unusual, considering that I'm a pilot"

umm, I sorta disagree with you on that. Either you are a very unsafe pilot or you fly aircraft that have received very poor maintanence. I to am a pilot and cant say I have been involved in a number of incidents!


Umm, I sorta disagree with YOU there, I'm afraid. That's awful short-sighted of you to say. You indicate in your profile that you're 21-25 years old and attend ERAU. You have ZERO flying experience compared to our friend ATPCliff, who is 36-45, ex-military, and an airline pilot to boot. I'm not saying I have more than you; I've only got 400 hours myself...a real newbie. You just can't compare yourself to him. It's just not possible.

My best friend had a stuck valve and partial loss of engine power the other day...he has 27 hours. Is he a bad pilot? Negative. Inexperienced? Heck yes. Did the plane receive good maintenance? Of course. The same A&P is in charge of that airplane that's in charge of mine, and I have 300+ hours of almost completely trouble-free flying in mine. Planes break. Some people have it happen more than others. I know a 777 captain who has never had an engine failure, yet my friend had one at the very beginning of his flying career. Planes break. Sometimes they break more with some people than others. It's just dumb luck.
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RE: Anyone Been In An Airplane Crash Or Incident?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 7:27 pm

I have had two toilet fire alarms while working on the saab 340. First time I was in the flightdeck chatting to the pilot when the bells went. I could see straight away what it was. Less scary then when all of a sudden the capitain comes on the pa and ask the cabin crew to report to the FD imediatly. (second one) Same problem, turned out to be moist air.

Had lighting strike on a KLM 747 on landing in AMS.

Few bumpy flights in sf340 and 1 go arround due weather in GCI.

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