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Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:38 pm

Has anyone here witnessed a crash or incident before? Anything from minor (Aborted takeoffs etc.) to major (Disasters).
I have witnessed none as of now.
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:43 pm

I once saw a plane go off the side of the runway at KPOU.
There was a pretty strong crosswind, and the poor guy lifted the wrong wing for his crosswind correction. Then just at the wrong moment, there was a pretty strong gust, and lifted him right over.
It definately thought me a lesson.
 
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:57 pm

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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 1:01 am

About a year ago I saw a BA 744 abort takeoff on 27L at LHR. A couple of weeks ago I saw a BAe 125 burst a tyre landing on LHR runway 27R, followed by the go around of the next two planes on approach.

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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 1:29 am

As a school boy, I spend a free afternoon at the perimeter fence once and I was lucky enough to witness an engine failure of a Swissair DC-10 bound for TLV. Loud bangs with flames, aborted take-off and, as the runway was wet, overrun the runway and stuck in the mud.

Escape slides came out, then silence... No passengers or crew members were seen, just the plane standing in the middle of nowhere. Sounds of sirenes started to be heard, etc. etc.

That was at least 25 years ago, but I remember it as it was yesterday!
 
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 1:46 am

I saw a FedEx DC-10 have an uncontained failure of the #2 engine 600ft after rotation off of 27L at FLL.

I also saw a Royal 737-200 come in on 9R at FLL after it lost the #1 to an engine fire, on landing she blew 3 of her four main gear wheels. She was on her way back to Canada from Cuba.
The same day as the Royal 732 I watched Delta change the #2 on a 3 week old 767-400, the gearbox was shreaded on start-up. (I also got a treat of seeing an AIA 747 bring in the new engine)

I have also seen 2 "Props" right after gear up landings.
 
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 1:58 am

I was on a Singapore 747-400 which aborted it's take off at LHR back in February this year (engine problem) and was also on a Virgin 747-400 which had to abort it's landing (also at LHR) a few years back because a BA 747 hadn't cleared the runway ahead of it, although neither incident was too dramatic to be honest.
I also witnessed a Bulgarian TU-154 (VIA-Varna International I believe) crash into another TU-154 on the apron at either Bourgas Airport or Varna Airport, Bulgaria many years ago. The pilot of the VIA 154 misjudged the distance between his wingtip and the tail of the other 154 and just crunched straight into it, much to the amazement of myself and the other British aircraft spotters lined up on the airport balcony.
As for incidents at airshows, I was at Fairford when the two Russian Mig-29's collided, and also at Prestwick (1988 ?) when a Hawker Sea Fury was unable to lower one of it's undercarriage legs, so after a few hops down the runway, the pilot decided to fly out over the sea and bale out (being picked up by an RAF Sea King SAR), and most tragic of all, I was at USAF Ramstein Air Base (Germany) back in 1988 when 3 aircraft of the Italian Air Force Aerobatic Team (Frecce Tricolori) collided, with one of the aircraft crashing into the crowd. From memory around 70 people died that day (the vision of the MB-339's exploding in flames is still quite clear in my mind) - a truly horrible day.
 
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 1:59 am

When I was younger, I flew with my dad and sister from MSP to ORD. We were on a Republic Airlines plane. (That should tell you how long ago that was). I can not remember if it were a DC-9 or a 727. I do recall we were banking HARD over lake Michigan, and the plane shuddered very violently. My dad logs about 100,000 miles a year and he even got the worried look on his face. Some of the people in the cabin let out some eeeks, not screaming, but close. That is the worst for me, but I do know a guy who was on that plane that did the complete roll. I do not remember where that was, or what airline, but it was a while ago when that happened. He no longer travels by plane, he drives everywhere now.

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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:01 am

I've seen an aircraft hit by landing whilst flying over my house on a downwind leg into FZO... scary stuff.
 
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:02 am

I saw a BA 747 land at IAD with an engine on fire once. I was really scared for them, I thought it was going to crash.
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:31 am

Saw the gear-up landing by the vintage DH Venom at Biggin Hill, the same day as the fatal Vampire crash later at the same show (and the King Cobra accident the next day).
 
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:37 am

I was in Sydney one afternoon last winter, Speed Bird 16 to Singapore had taken off from runway 34L. 10 minutes into flight, Craig Murray starts yelling... "Speed Bird just declared an emergency". Apparently there was indications of a potential cargo fire. The 747-400 returned to SYD immediately and made an extremely heavy landing as they had no real time to dump fuel. They stoped at the end of 34L where they were met by numerous emergency vehicels. The incident closed down 34L for the remainder of the afternoon which provided us with great shots of the Thai row boat 747-400 and QANTAS 5 taking off from 34R. Never really heard the end result with Speed Bird 16.
 
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:47 am

Been in one crash (glider), and at least one near-accident (massive fuel leak, crashtenders lining the runway. Tu-154).

Seen an aborted landing due to non-deployed landing gear on extremely short final (he was over the treshold before aborting, maybe 50ft up).
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:50 am

I have seen several engine failures on take-off and have been on 4 flights (2 L-1011's and 2 L-188's) that had inflight shutdowns due to engine/prop malfunctions.
Two incidents that I observed are; first, in 1960 an EAL L-1049 at DCA suffered an engine failure during take-off below V1 on runway 33 in a heavy snow storm. The plane was ground looped and the left man landing gear collapsed.

Second, 1962 at ISP; I was in the snack bar just after signing up for flying lessons when a Beech 18 had the gear collapse on take-off. The first thing I actually saw was a trail of fire following the airplane down the runway; being used to fire fighting training on Air Force Bases, I thought initially that that was going on.
Then my attention moved forward on the runway and I saw the airplane on its belly with a couple of guys getting out in a very big hurry. Then the fire reached the airplane and a lot of flame and smoke rose up. The fire trucks arrived and at first poured a lot of foam about 20-30 feet short of the airplane. When the foam was finally put on the airplane, it smothered the fire (the fuel was leaking out under the airplane) for a moment and then the fire burned through the foam. It began to look like smoke signals with foam, fire, foam, fire, etc. I vowed not to crash and burn at ISP and, low and behold, I never did!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:52 am



The most tragic was the USAIR crash at LAX that landed on top of the
commuter plane. The wreckage came to rest directly across from the
gate we were waiting for GA800 to arrive at. They didnt close the airport
so we watched the whole scene for a couple of hours before the plane
finally came in. To this day I can still see the body bags on the runway.
Also witnessed UA B744 land with out its nose gear at LAX when the planes
were relatively new to service and a THAI B744 land with one of its center
landing gears stuck in the up position. Also saw the Air France B742 land
after an inflight fire on take off at LAX.
Was also either fortunate or unfortunate depending on your point of view
to land the next day at DFW after the Delta L1011 crash, land the next
day at HNL after UA B742 lost the cargo door in flight, and land the next
day at OGG after the Aloha B737 lost half its roof inflight.
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/cra

Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:54 am

I witnessed some small single engine plane get blown sideways off a runway with the wings perpendicular to the ground at PDK...

...straight towards us, in the little Duchess not too terribly far away.

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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:58 am

Sinlock, a FedEx DC-10 off of 27L and a Royal 737 off of 9R at FLL ? Think you got your runways confused.
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:59 am

While spotting have witnessed three go-arounds (aborted landing before touchdown): US 757 at FLL, AA 763 at MIA and WN 733 at PHX.

The latter incident was the closest I've come in my awareness of seeing a serious accident or disaster. The WN 733 was within about 200' of touching down on the runway, seconds from what appeared would be a routine landing when the aircraft abruptly assumed a nose up attitude. Wondering why the sudden change in plan, I turned my attention from the WN bird to the runway where a UA 737 was about 500' into its takeoff roll on the same runway on which WN had been about to land.
 
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Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:33 am

All I've seen are an emergency landing by a Mesaba Saab 340 (I guess there was smoke in the cockpit, but I still don't know the complete story on that), and the aborted a takeoff of a Skyway (now "Midwest Connect") aircraft. I believe it was a Dornier 328 jet. They fixed the problem and made a successful takeoff shortly afterwards.

Obviously nothing really exciting ever happens around here....
 
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:46 am

In August 1980, at ARN, I witnessed when a JAT B707 (YU-AGG) overran r/w 26 with something around 100 meters before it came to rest in the grass, with 4 blown tires on the main gear, mud in all 4 engines and some damage to the undercarriage.
It suffered a strong tailwind when passing the threshold to the runway during a heavy thunderstorm, resulting in a very late touchdown.

It was a really scary sight, but there were no injured passengers luckily.
 
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:50 am

When I was at MAN the other month I saw a go around, a Dragon Air Cargo 747 had taxied onto the runway ready for take-off whilst a Ryanair 737 was on short finals and hence did a go around.

I was also onboard an Emirates A330 which aborted its take off in Dubai due to an air conditioning warning light illuminating in the cockpit. After an hour sat on the plane whilst it was checked over by engineers we were eventually on our way to Manchester.

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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:50 am

In April of 2002 i was at an airshow in California at NAS Pt. Mugu where my sister is stationed at. The Weapons Test and Evaluation Squadron VX-9 were doing flyovers with two F-14's and two F-4's. There final maneuver was where all 4 planes were flying together and one-by-one they peeled away, lighting up there afterburners. The last one to peel away was an F-4, but as it lit its afterburners its right engine flamed out and the plane began to yaw uncontrollably, they were maybe 700 feet above the ground and the pilot attempted to regain control but was unable too. The pilot ejected when he was only 50 feet above the ground and landed in the fireball, and the RIO in the back never got out. Both were killed instantly. This incedent is something that will be etched in my mind forever.

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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 5:44 am

I saw a Thai International Caravelle undershoot the runway in HKG in 1967 due to a severe rainstorm over the airport and the plane plunged into the water. Some 20+ passengers drowned from the crash but amazingly a friend of my mom who was on that flight managed to get out with only minor bruises by opening the right side front door after the plane sank and swimming out.
 
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 6:00 am

Back in August 1998 I saw a Sabena A340 inbound from JFK skid off the runway at BRU only moments after touchdown on RWY 25L. The right main landing gear apparantly collapsed and made the aircraft turn to the right, skidding into the grass.


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Wed Jun 04, 2003 6:33 am

I've personally been in:
1. A go-around on a DH-8-100 (USAirways Express/Allegheny) at PHL; traffic crossing on the perpendicular runway (I saw it flash by underneath us.)
2. A BAD approach on a DH-8-100 (Eastern Express) at JAX; we were landing in a Level 5/6 supercell thunderstorm with an active Tornado Warning. For various reasons we could not divert or return to our origin.

I've seen:
Several emergency landings at KCLE: an ATR-42 that lost hydraulics and three ERJs on single engines. All landed safely and were towed or taxied to the gate (no evacuations on the runway.)
Numerous go-arounds at KCLE, usually on bad weather days when they're using the crosswind runway. Just after they opened the new runway, though, I saw two go-arounds because the ATC was getting used to the spacing.

So, other than that thunderstorm landing, most of my incidents have been tame.

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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 7:06 am

I was at ATL when valujet dc9 had an uncontained engine failure on t/o rollout. he was able to stop the plane and you could see people jumping out the overwing exits before the cfr crews arrived. everyone got off ok.

The following two i did not witness happen but saw soon after....
I was at SEL the day after a ke b744 spun off the runway in heavy rain. they brought in cranes to remove the aircraft. believe it was a w/o.

Arrived in tpe the day after the SQ crash. a sad sight to see the remains of that a/c all over the runway and taxiways.
 
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:44 am

I sat onboard QF 1 on SYD-BKK-LHR in march 2002, operated by VH-OJF.

After takeoff, some inoperable radar systems were detected (which were damaged by ground staff inside the most upfront cargo hold, as we were later told?!?). After doing circles over Sydney for about an hour, we dropped about 95 tons of fuel and returned.

We later departed SYD being more than 4 hours late - after an announcement that the crew had ordered some extra fuel and were given allowance by QF management "to floor it". We should prepare for an extraordinary high speed flight. Yeehaa!!!

We were not disappointed - though stop-over at BKK did again take some 35 minutes longer than expected, we finally landed at LHR only 55 minutes after time table.

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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:43 am

I saw both WN 737s slide off the taxiway at MCI last winter (2001/2002). I did not witness but did get an up-close-and-personal view of the HP 737 that landed in the mud at MCI last spring (2002) and witnessed the NJ MD-82 that landed tail-first (then gear) at that same airport last summer.

The WN 737s were interesting, because they didn't look like they were sliding anywhere. They didn't wobble or shake violently. They just slid off the runway and into the grass (which was covered in ice and snow).

The NJ MD-80 wasn't too interesting either. It wasn't a violent jerk. It just came down on its tail, which seemed to crumple, then the wheels touched and it landed normally from there on out. I'm told the passengers were somewhat concerned, but from the outside, it didn't seem all that bad.
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:48 am

I saw a CO DC10-10 departing SYD off rwy 07 have a failure of the No2 engine, a bright orange flame at least 50 feet long shot out of the engine as it failed. The aircraft continued to climb for a few seconds before levelling off and calling the tower declaring an emergency.
The aircraft was vectored off the coast and around for an approach to rwy 34 where it landed safely, not 10 mins after departure. The thing was this was just after the DC10's were allowed back into the air after the AA DC10 crash at ORD, and for a young teenager at the time it was a pretty scary sight.
The other near major incident I have witnessed first hand involved a Thai DC10 also in SYD in the days of SIMOPS ( Aircraft landing on rwy 34 were to hold of short of the crossing runway which was being used as well) This particular TG DC10 landed a touch long and as it raced passed us watching on the fence we turned to see an Ansett 320 on very short final for rwy 25. Well the ten locked everything up with lots of tyre smoke and eventually started going a touch sideways as it neared the flight strip of 25. In the meantime the 320 did a very late go-around, we were not sure if it actually touched down or not, but as it climbed it most likely would not have cleared the ten if it had not managed to stop in time. While this was happening there was a QF 747 holding short of 25 to taxy to 34, we had visions of the 320 hitting the DC 10 then bouncing off into the 747, we estimated there was about 700 people on the 3 flights. SIMOPS regs were tightened after that.
Also saw the aftermath of the AN 743 that landed in SYD with the nose gear retracted and of a Kiwi International 727 that landed in SYD with the right main gear tyres locked, the tyres of course burst shortly after touch down and she pulled up right in the intersection of 16R and 07.
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:59 am

A few years ago a little kit plane crashed out in the ocean near our airport, killing two people inside. I didn't witness the crash. But I got up close to the wreckage of the plane in a hanger at the airport after they retreived it from the ocean and removed the bodies. Very erie.

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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 11:02 am

Haven't seen anybody actually crash one, but seen them try to.

Seen and USAF 130 make a three engined landing, An MU-2 to land on one.

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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 11:09 am

i remember sitting at my grandmother's house in Sharjah, in the United Arab Emirates, it was the time of sunset, and suddenly we hear this loud bang. my grandmother live so close to the north final approach of Sharjah international, planes were taking off from that side that day. it was december 1997 if i remember correctly, or maybe november, and when we switch on the TV, a tuplolev 150 for Tajek airlines was crashed, a flight attendant and the copilot survived but the flight attendant died on her way to the hospital we heard
 
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 11:40 am

I was catching a flight from Dusseldorf's Monchengladbach Airport (on a Debonair BAe146) to Luton sometime in November 1998. It was a dawn flight and as I waited in the terminal, I watched folks in business attire board a Denimair F27.

After a while, without any warning, the port-side main undercarriage of the Denimair F27 collapsed . . . and the whole complement of passengers followed by crew members jumped off the awkwardly-angled plane.

No one was hurt . . . and relief of on-lookers like myself eventually became laughter.

I now wonder if anyone on this forum works at the airport at that time and know of the specific incident.

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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:30 pm

CI MD11 flip over on landing.Still amazing only 3 died

CZ B707 at CAN aborted takeoff with gear collapse and engine ripped of.
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:35 pm

I heard/saw the flash of the explosion of a Merlin that spun uncontrollably into the ground (the Hooters private plane incidentally) back in 1991, killing NASCAR driver Alan Kulwicki. I remember distinctly; I was in first grade.

I've seen a few planes land gear-up; I almost had that happen to me the other day when I had a hydraulic leak in flight.

I saw a high-speed low formation pass by a Cessna 210 and a Baron 58 over my high school a year and a half ago by two idiots at an airport close to me. Seconds later, the Baron crashed into a tree (failure to LOOK STRAIGHT AHEAD), killing the sole occupant.

As for go-arounds, the most memorable was back in January during the famous Eddy Gual slide extravaganza at MIA. It's probably one of the best-documented go-arounds on Airliners.net, although most of the other spotters there didn't see what exciting events transpired to necessitate the go-around. A Cessna 310 took off from 27R and immediately declared an emergency. All other spotters were watching the approaching Aero Continente 762, but my eyes were transfixed on the Twin Cessna...I didn't have a scanner with me but it just wasn't climbing. I nudged Jon Derden excitedly and told him to look around...so we watched this guy literally do a 180 and come back around for 9R....with the 76 on approach to 27L! Of course, instantly the Aero Continente initiated the go-around as the Cessna plunked it on at what had to be the absolute edge of the runway. Everyone else was wondering what happened to cause the go around....except me and derden..lol. The emergency equipment, already rolling behind an AA 757 with hydraulic failure that had just executed an overweight landing, went from the 75 straight to the Cessna. Interesting day at MIA!

Side note...my dad flew into ORD the day after AA 191. He said the mood was...odd. I remember driving past the spot where those infamous pictures of the accident in progress were taken...very eerie.
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:31 pm

Mildenhall air show in 1980's - saw a meteor and vampire crash.

Chicago 1989 - AA Md80 had a hydraulic failure and came in very fast and the nosewheel collapsed.

Buenos Aries 1996 - World MD11 operating for MAS came in very fast and overshot the runway in heavy rain. Closed the airport for a few hours while it was recovered.
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Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:47 pm

Witnessed AA 587 crash from the Cross Bay Boulevard in Queens. Had to talk to the NYPD, FAA, NTSB, and FBI numerous times, I've been quoted in a few newspapers, much of my story chopped up. Obviously the most horrific thing I've ever seen in my life...in my honest opinion, was not wake turbulence, something exploded in the rear of the aircraft behind the wing, the plane disintegrated as it fell into Belle Harbor. Tail and engines came off later, after the plane was already disintegrating. My opinion: Bomb exploded in rear cargo hold, plane subsequently came apart. I've been a life long aviation fan, and spotter. Their was an explosion, I'd bet my life and my children's life on it. I saw it.
 
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 6:26 pm

Saw a QF 747-300 abort a landing at KUL (now SZB) in the mid-80s and take-off again and an SQ 747-400 do the same a few years later at SIN.

When the Iran Air A300 got shot down by USS Vincennes off Dubai - I was flying on BA33 in a TriStar in the vicinity and picked up a slight delay during our stop at Abu Dhabi nearby. As AA587 crashed - I was landing at JFK on a trip back from MIA... didn't know about it until I checked in at my hotel who asked if my arrival was a problem due to the crash.

 
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:31 pm

On 9/11, I was driving on West St. in NYC just above Canal St. heading towards the WTC.(10 to 15 blocks away) I saw a plane that seemed to be out of control. I thought, of course, that the plane was trying to avoid the WTC. Watching the first plane disinergrate into the North Tower with my own eyes was surreal and beyond awful. After watching the only video of the first plane, my experience seemed to have a longer time component. Time moved very slowly. As soon as I saw the planes impact I turned my car around recognizing that the traffic was going to make it difficult for emergency vehicles. I was amazed by how many vehicles were still heading downtown not realizing what had just happened.
 
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 11:19 pm

Two years ago, I was watching 28L/R out of my hotel room window at the Marriott at SFO when I saw a Singapore (can't exactly remember what kind of aircraft it was) at about 400-500 feet have to initiate a go-around because of a United 747-400 turning on to 28L.

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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Wed Jun 04, 2003 11:47 pm

3 crashes, all at airshows

1977. Fairey Firefly of Canadian Warplane Heritage crashed into Lake Ontario while performing at the Canadian International Airshow. 1 fatality

Late 80's/Early 90's... mid air collision, Canadian Armed Forces Snowbirds, Canadian International Air Show, 1 fatality, 1 ejection into Lake Ontario

Mid 90's RAF Nimrod crashed into Lake Ontario killing all on board (7?) at Canadian International Airshow.

Also saw the late Jeff Ethell at a small airshow ( Muirkirk Ontario) throttle up a P-51 ( Nervous Energy V) and he just about put it onto it's nose.

London Airshow, June 1994, Canadian Armed Forces CF-188 (188751) pulled excessive g's to avoid collision with ground. Rumour was the bird was bent and never flew again. ( perhaps someone can confirm flight status of 188751)

 
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Thu Jun 05, 2003 12:43 am

Remember Lockerbie in 1988 when PA103 crashed. Remember seeing the massive ball of flames in the sky. I was 5 at the time, and its something I'll never, EVER forget. Still see small parts lying around the fields of Lockerbie today....
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RE: Anyone Ever Witnessed An Accident/incident/crash?

Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:09 am

I was flying in the pattern at an airport in Tennessee when a guy landed gear up in a Arrow I think, I really don't remember the airplane. Needless to say I didn't get to land there for a while.