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JAL B742 & B743 Executive Product

Thu Jun 05, 2003 7:27 pm

Hello

I might be flying JL this summer to YVR and they mostly use B743s on this route and occassionally the B742. I would love to fly one of these classics before they finally leave the skies. Have they ever upgraded this route to a B744 for the summer season? If yes, will they this summer?

Nonetheless, we all know that the B742 and B743 of JL's have inferior products in the Executive class. Not that I am talking about the "shell" seats which are progressively available only on aircraft but I believe they have the older seats and not the latest Magic IFE with a normal PTV?

Can anyone roughly tell me how the product is on board JL's B742/3?

How is it when compared to KE's B772? I have a choice between JL and KE. I have flown KE last summer and some other time before I'd like to try something different this time although I wouldn't mind flying KE again.

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RE: JAL B742 & B743 Executive Product

Fri Jun 06, 2003 6:48 am

NRT-YVR is considered by JL as a "leisure" route, as such you won't find the same services you can expect on NRT-LAX/JFK/LHR, especially on J Class. Still, it is a better product than AC. In my opinion, it falls between the "very leisure" NRT-HNL services and the "somewhat leisure" NRT-BNE/SYD flights. I flew YVR-NRT-MNL return on JL in November 2002, and J Class is the "Seasons" Executive Class that features the Skyluxe seats, which I think is one of the most underrated J Class products flying today. The seat itself is very comfortable, and the curves make it look very pleasing aesthetically. Part of the problem with JL though is that they tend to vary their services according to the route history, demand and passenger profile so there is no consistency among the different routes from NRT. Seat pitch is 47 inches; you will only find the 62 inch pitch on the NRT-LAX/JFK routes, which are also on the way to being replaced by the Shell Seat.

YVR is one of their last few long-haul destinations with 747 Classics, along with HNL (not really long haul at 6-7 hours) and BNE. They have never upgraded this service to a 744 before, and I'm glad they don't plan to anytime soon as I love the 747 Classics. It is the only carrier serving YVR with this aircraft as LH has now upgraded to the 744, so I make it a point to fly JL everytime I go to HKG or MNL. As far as IFE is concerend, the 747 Classics do not feature the latest MAGIC version, but what they have is more than enough for a 9 hour transpacific crossing.

JL offers the fastest option (as far as flying time is concerned) from SE Asian airports that do not have nonstop flights to YVR because of NRT's location on NE Asia. I've flown NRT-YVR several times before when tailwinds caused the flight to last just a little under 8 hours! Overall, JL is an excellent airline and you should expect to be pampered with legendary Japanese service and efficiency!
 
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RE: JAL B742 & B743 Executive Product

Fri Jun 06, 2003 10:13 am

Let me know how the 743 is, with out a question it is my favorite plane, mainly because of the rarity of it in the US.
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RE: JAL B742 & B743 Executive Product

Fri Jun 06, 2003 11:19 am

the 47 inch pitch is indeed inferior to KE's 50 in and not to forget that us KE Skypass silver holders could possibly get to sit in the First Class cabin of the B777 which buying a Business ticket as they dont have First Class on that route... This choice is getting interesting..

So I believe there are PTVs in those B742/3s? I am one of those ppl who really likes PTVs.
 
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RE: JAL B742 & B743 Executive Product

Fri Jun 06, 2003 1:03 pm

how about economy class? im going to be using JAL from YVR-NRT-MNL
 
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RE: JAL B742 & B743 Executive Product

Fri Jun 06, 2003 1:32 pm

Y Class is definitely "no frills" on JL, as far as YVR-NRT is concerned. No PTV's and no footrests, no amenity kits, but at least no IFE box to contend with. In fact, you will feel like flying a North American carrier (as far as lack of nice touches is concerned) with a few differences: FA's are some of the friendliest, food is always good (Japanese delicacies that the world knows like Terriyaki, etc...), and most importantly your fellow pax are polite Japanese people who keep to themselves and are unobtrusive throughout the flight!
 
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RE: JAL B742 & B743 Executive Product

Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:03 pm

Therefore the PTVs in Executive onboard JL B742s and B743s are the first versions of Magic? Does it have footrest and headrests? How is the recline like? To be honest 47 in pitch does sound a bit too little.
 
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RE: JAL B742 & B743 Executive Product

Sat Jun 07, 2003 12:00 am

Airbus Lover, like I said above, JAL Executive Class Seasons is a cut above the rest, even without the Shell Seat. The Skyluxe seat is more comfortable than BA's old cradle seat, and I really believe that it is the best across the Pacific among carriers that do not have the flatbed in C Class. Here's a link to their Japanese website about the features of the Skyluxe Seat

http://www.jal.co.jp/inflight/inter/executive/c_seat/index2.html

 
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RE: JAL B742 & B743 Executive Product

Sat Jun 07, 2003 12:04 am

Thanks Speedbird... I've been trying to find that!  Laugh out loud
 
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RE: JAL B742 & B743 Executive Product

Sat Jun 07, 2003 12:09 am

And the English version too:

http://www.jal.co.jp/en/inflight/inter/executive/c_seat/index2.html

As you can see on the site, with the introduction of the Shell Seat on NRT-JFK & NRT-LHR, the planes with the 62-inch pitch Skyluxe Seats have been redeployed on the NRT-FRA/CDG/LAX/BKK on specific flight numbers. Actually, LAX is also in the process of getting the Shell Seats soon. So it looks like the rest of the system will get the standard 47-inch Skyluxe.

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