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PSA 737-700's

Wed Dec 08, 1999 9:36 am

I was out at LAX the other day and noticed several brand spanking new Boeing jets outside the PSA hangar. They seemed to be 737-700's but I couldn't confirm this until later as one rolled out for a test run and a few touch and goes for the pilots. It was truly an awesome sight...I think the new a/c will bring PSA back into profitability again.

Has anyone else seen it? If not you should go out there and have a look.
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RE: PSA 737-700's

Wed Dec 08, 1999 9:59 am

PSA? Are you sure? PSA went out of business years ago. I don't think it was PSA, although if PSA did go back into business, the 737G would be a good choice. Here is PSA's color scheme:



Are you sure this is the one?

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RE: PSA 737-700's

Wed Dec 08, 1999 10:42 am

So... the rumours WERE true...PSA is back! (see the posting I left about this topic a week or so back) I thought I remembered seeing something about them. I'll have to go out this weekend and check them out.
god, what did they look like? Did they have the old livery or was it something new?
 
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I Doubt This

Wed Dec 08, 1999 11:14 am

USAir acquired PSA in the late 80s. On of its subsidiaries, Jetstream Intl was renamed PSA inc, and currently operates mainly Do328s for USAirways Express. I HIGHLY doubt that the airline which owns the rights to the name(US), operates a feeder under the same name, and wants to return to the old market would possibly consider licensing the PSA name.
 
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RE: I Doubt This

Wed Dec 08, 1999 12:19 pm

I agree. PSA is already an airline. It flies in the upper/eastern midwest as US Airways Express. There's no way that US would allow a "PSA" to start up in Cali. And don't even think about putting a smile on a plane. Talk about your good ole American lawsuit...

BTW, the smile has appeared on many new jets in US Airways' fleet, even the new A320s have suddenly appeared with smiles on them occasionally. PSA is not even close to dead.  
 
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DLX

Wed Dec 08, 1999 3:21 pm

Really? Id love to see an a/c in the new colors with a smile. Any photos on Airl.net?
 
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RE: PSA 737-700's

Wed Dec 08, 1999 3:55 pm

I dunno maybe I'm going crazy but I was out there at LAX and saw three freshly painted brand new beauties (737-700's) in the old livery. Believe me it suprised the heck out of me too. I don't know anything about any lawsuits...I only know what I saw right in front of me. Didn't get any N# reg numbers but will try to do so this weekend. I really hope it is true and PSA does come back to profitability....I love their story and think they could make Southwest look like United.

Who else has seen the new jets?
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RE: PSA 737-700's

Wed Dec 08, 1999 4:10 pm

Just spoke with a friend of mine out there at LAX (FAA) and he said he hadn't seen them. What hanger are they parked at? The PSA hanger changed hands years ago with the USAir buyout, and I'm not sure you owns/occupies it now. Can you tell me what other buildings/hangers are adjacent to where you saw them so I can track this one down? Thanks...
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RE: Photos Of Smiles On US Jets

Wed Dec 08, 1999 4:21 pm

I looked for some of these pics, and I couldn't find them. There is someone on the net who did a history of PSA, and they are located there.

http://www.flash.net/~trinkle/psa/ussmile.htm

(still not certain if this is within the rules though...)

 
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RE: PSA 737-700's

Wed Dec 08, 1999 4:22 pm

Not really sure about which hangar they are parket at as I am new to LAX. I've lived in SoCal for a while but just now started "spotting" at a regular basis. I think it was near the Garrett Aviation building off of 7R but I could be mistaken. Like I said am new to the area.
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They're There

Thu Dec 09, 1999 2:46 am

I just had to make a drive to LAX to check this out. I only saw one. It had landed on 25L. And then it taxied out of sight. Probably over to the west end of the airfield. I wanted to try and chase it down, but I had to get back to make it to work in time. I don't know about the USAirways situation, but there is at least 1 737-700 with PSA livery on it. It was white with red, burgundy, and blue stripes on it. It didn't have the smile on it.
 
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RE: They're There

Thu Dec 09, 1999 4:41 am

That's crazy, man! Did you get a picture of it? US Air is going to have a field day on this if they don't know about it already.
 
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No Pic

Thu Dec 09, 1999 5:08 am

I had my camera. I had film. I was ready for it. Then when it came, it wasn't until I tried to press the shutter that I realized I forgot to turn the friggin' thing on. By then, it was too late. It was gone. I was PISSED. I will be going out again this weekend when I have more time to try and chase them down and see if I can't get some pix and maybe some info.
 
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This Is Weird

Thu Dec 09, 1999 9:54 am

Someone's gotta got a picture of it... If I wasn't in IN and I was in SoCal, I'd be there trying to a picture.

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RE: PSA 737-700's

Thu Dec 09, 1999 10:32 am

All i can sya is "LAWSUIT!!!!" US Airways still has PSa as a wholly-owned subsidiary of US Airways group listed on there US Airways Express page. I hope whoever started this thing knows what there doing because US Airways will take them for all there worth when they find out about the name, if they havent already...Unless, PSA is re-starting west-coast flights on there own...which i doubt...oh well. interesting.
-Tony
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RE: PSA 737-700's

Thu Dec 09, 1999 10:59 am

I have two things to add to this...

First, I have a friend whose father, an ex-PSA mechanic, now works for USAirways. He is at least partly responsible for the smiles that "appeared" on USAirways aircraft, including their first A-320.

Secondly, several years back, about when I was a junior or a senior in high school, there was talk of a business man who bought the rights to the Pacific Southwest Airlines names, and was going to restart the airline as a west coast carrier flying regional jets (Dornier 328s or Embraer 135s). Last I heard, he had altered the name slightly to a more modern "PSAzz". My friend was unbelieveable livid at this, as he was so excited about the resurgence of PSA. Looking at the PSAzz website now, it is only a picture saying that the site will be up "soon," so there is actually less information than there used to be. I remember visiting their corporate offices at Carlsbad Airport in Southern California (CRQ to GA pilots, CBD or CLD for commercial ops). There was a DC-3 on the ramp in PSA colors that was owned by the PSAzz owner's son, and there was really nothing going on in the office. The only reason we even went was becaude of how excited my friend was to see PSA coming back. I don't know what ever happened to any of this, though.
 
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RE: PSA 737-700's

Thu Dec 09, 1999 11:23 am

I remember going to the PSAzz website about a year or two ago. One thing that really stuck out was that they are in no way affilliated with the past --or present-- PSA...

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RE: PSA 737-700's

Thu Dec 09, 1999 2:09 pm

Those of you in the SoCal area, I hope you can keep us all informed of the plane's comings and goings... I'm very interested in what this is all about... Here's hoping that PSA comes back in full force and we can catch that smile again up and down the coast.
 
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RE: PSA 737-700's

Thu Dec 09, 1999 7:37 pm

Hm, I still think it's an early April-Fools thing. All 737-700s built till now are identified and delivered or allocated to other customers. The only possibility is COA or SWA had leased some to the startup, which is very unlikely, to say the least.
Maybe it's true with some old 733s.
Isn't it possible US Airways swap some old 733s of theirs to a new subsidiary called PSA (I guess they own their name), of squeeze back into the California-market? It would be interesting but still, I highly doubt it.
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I Got It!

Fri Dec 10, 1999 4:55 am

I made another trip to LAX, and went looking for it. I got a so-so pic of it. By the way, it is a -300, not a -700 as previously mentioned. As soon as I can develop it, I'll try to figure out how to post it.
 
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RE: I Got It!

Fri Dec 10, 1999 8:29 am

Okay. That it is a 733 changes things. My new theory is that this is the west coast Metrojet that we've heard rumors of over the last year... It fits the equation. US has 733s that are to be replaced by 319/320s in the next few years. Some are slated for metrojet anyways, why not put a few out in Cali and run them around having everyone think that PSA is back.  
 
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RE: I Got It!

Fri Dec 10, 1999 4:31 pm

I retired from PSA/USAIRWAYS last year and keep in contact with people from work via E-Mail,and none of them have said anything about the return of PSA. I will write to one of them to see if they have heard of anything going on. I haven't seen anything on USAIRWAYS web site about bring metro-jet out here. As for the colors we didn't have a blue stripe down the side. The colors were a bright pink and two colors of red. PSA still lives thru their web site and with the annual picnic's in San Diego. PSA was a fun airline to work for before USAIRWAYS took over.

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