twalives
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EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:44 am

I need some help here because I am totally confused with what I am finding on the Lufthansa Web site. I was searching for a business class ticket from SA - New Jersey">EWR to DUS and came up with flight LH409 operated by Privatair SA in an A319?

Is this a mistake on the site? Am I reading it incorrectly? Or is there actually scheduled SA - New Jersey">EWR-DUS on an A319? If so, how does the partnership work between Privatair and Lufthansa?

 
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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:46 am

All business class flight on a Boeing Business Jet (BBJ). Quit a cool little flight. I saw the BBJ at EWR the last time I was in town.
 
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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:46 am

It is an all Business class I believe 48 seats in total that is operated by Privatair as a LH flight!
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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:49 am

Are the prices higher! And, how's the route doing??

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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:52 am

No priced like similar Business class prices and doing very well from what I have read. Look for more of these in the future from what I have read.
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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:56 am

The route is going quite nicely. It was started about a year or so ago with one BBJ from Privatair. Because of the succes more routes like this have been started. I believe there are now 3 Biz-only flights operated by Privatair. They now use both the BBJ and the ACJ.

With regard to prices, these flights only have a business class. As such you will have to pay for a business class seat. If you want to fly to Dusseldorf cheap(ish) you can better fly economy class to Frankfurt or Schiphol and from there take another flight or the high speed train to Dusseldorf.
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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:58 am

lh offered this service also from duesseldort to chicago , and they are thinking about more possible routes with bizjet, also privat air had offered this service to other airlines for other routes but till now only lh used it (correct me if i`m wrong)
 
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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:58 am

Thought that Privatair were getting some A319's (the one thats the private jet thingy) too in the all business config.........sure I read that on here somewhere.....

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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 2:01 am

Leezyjet

You are correct about the 319's tho I am not sure they are flying those right now to the USA.
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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 2:04 am

One of the airline review magazines had a real good article about the first flight and relationship between the 2 companies. If you want to know the magazine and date I can locate it for you.
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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 2:08 am

Thanks for all of the info, it is a really cool niche they are filling with this concept.
 
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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 2:18 am

Just checked tomorrow's flight, LH408 DUS-EWR A319 1000am arrive 1230pm with a return same day on LH 409 EWR-DUS 440pm arive 615am A319 and fare is USD3982.40 roundtrip.

MUC-EWR-MUC is operated by B737BBJ.

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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 2:36 am

One of them is already in a.net database


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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 3:13 am


They actually also sell economy tix on these flights, but only in unrestricted Y fare class. Might as well shell out 50 bucks more for C...

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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 3:35 am

I fly frequently the dus-ewr: first with the 737-700 ( with the wing of the -800) and now with the 319.

All that has been said it's true, 48 seats all biz class with blue leather chairs on the 737 ( very similar to the BA"s cradle seat) with 55' to 60' pitch while the 319 has grey leather interiors.

I will fly the ewr- muc in two weeks again, this time with the 737.

Loads are good but not exceptional, speaking with my friends at LH the occupancy is around 65 to 70% on average.

trye, they accept economy passengers with published Y fares, and all business class fares ( D and C).

Service is really great, friendly and professional. Food is the regular LH biz menu served on LH crockery but with some extra touches such as espresso served with First china from LH.
No PTV but individual players with LH first class selection of movies, documentaries etc.
The F/A's are extraordinary, truly personalizing the service ( i.e.: going around the plane with the manifest and greeting personally all *gold and senators and calling EACH passenger by name for the entire flight).
It is a really great way to fly: no congerstions at the airport, no waiting in line at check ins or lounge-waiting room, extra quick boarding and deplaning and almost non existent line at immigration once on arrival.
The cabin is quiet and it provides a very soothing effect on the entire flight, seems like a small club in the air.
The small planes are just a little slower than their big brothers and sisters.
last week while LH 403 flying EWR - FRA had a scheduled flying time of 6 hours and 20 minutes with a 744 the MUC bound 413 had a cool 8 hours 5 minutes with the smaller 737. ( which passengers really don't mind because they can SLEEP - at least I DON'T MIND...)
Another complaint passenger have is the lack of power outlet for their PC's. I don't care, as much as there is champagne flowing.
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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:11 am

EWR-MUC BBJ
EWR-DUS A319


And isn't there another PrivateAir/LHR route, to ORD perhaps?
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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:13 am

NO not yet! Unless BA or AA did it I can not imagine it being able to operate out of LHR! Maybe LGW tho.
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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:17 am

I did not mean to write LHR, I meant LH as in Lufthansa.
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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:20 am

Yes, ORD-DUS A319.

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RE: EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused

Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:45 am

Yeah... its not an ACJ, but its also not a regular 319.

It's a 319LR.

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