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How Do U Non Rev

Sat Jun 14, 2003 2:02 am

For an aviation enthusist "non reving" has got to be a maricle. Reguarless, I heard you can't purchase a "stand-by" ticket. Is this true? If not... How do you get stand-by tickets, or "non rev"?????????????????
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RE: How Do U Non Rev

Sat Jun 14, 2003 2:37 am

We travel for free on ATA. We have our own yellow employee tickets that we fill out with our flight number, ID #, Name, routing, date of hire and such and that is our ticket. To book the flights i just find the flights i want in the computer and sell me a stand-by reservation. Simple as that.
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RE: How Do U Non Rev

Sat Jun 14, 2003 4:04 am

Yea... what WMUPilot says  Smile

Non-Revenue travel is only available to airline employees, their dependents, and on a limited basis their friends & non-direct family (using a different type of pass than what is available to employees/dependents - and then only good on the airline the employee works for). At SkyWest, we have what are called "blue passes" which are valid on all SkyWest-operated flights (both United Express & Delta Connection, and soon to be Continental Connection), which we fill out exactly like WMUPilot fills out his yellow tickets.

All airlines usually also have agreements with other airlines to allow each other's employees & dependents (but NOT friends) to travel on each other's airline at a reduced rate, depending on the agreement. We have a list several pages long right now, and the list keeps getting bigger  Smile

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RE: How Do U Non Rev

Sat Jun 14, 2003 5:22 am

You can make friends with airline employees and ask them for a buddy pass. Although that means you usually have the lowest boarding priority. At ACA we also had Blue passes which we used on UAX and DLC. We also had Write Your Owns that we used on other UAX carriers and mainline UA flights. We also had agreements with other carriers to buy special reduced rate tickets for travel on them.
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RE: How Do U Non Rev

Sat Jun 14, 2003 5:30 am

"Buddy passes" are way overrated. It's often hard enough non-revving with the boarding priority of your "own" airline as it is.

If you're flexible in your plans, or book early enough, you're better off just buying a ticket. It's not that much more expensive ( or put another way, the ID-90 fare is not appreciably less )...and you're at least more-or-less guaranteed a seat/passage.


RE: How Do U Non Rev

Sat Jun 14, 2003 6:04 am

Non-revving may be an enthusiast's dream, but it can be a nightmare at times in reality. There isn't much time to take pictures of airplanes when you're running from gate to gate or hanging close by waiting for your name to be called.
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RE: How Do U Non Rev

Sat Jun 14, 2003 2:09 pm

I unfortunately agree with N951U it isn't all it cracks up to be, especially if you're going on a different carrier with whom yours has an agreement. It can be very nervewracking and you have to plan extra time in case things don't work out.
On the other hand though, it is cheap travel, and every now and then it is nice to go somewhere different for really cheap.

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RE: How Do U Non Rev

Sun Jun 15, 2003 2:32 am

With Delta, employees have a card which they use for domestic flights. For international flights, they have to fill out a paper ticket to go with their card. Delta employees can access the travelnet from home on intranet computers. The system tells you how many seats are open, how many non-rev people are on the list, and the employment date of each. When a standby list has been put together at the airport, the intranet also gives the information of where the employee or other card holder is in the list, both among non revenue passengers and revenue standby passengers. We rarely have much trouble with this. We have not yet tried to fly one of the other Skyteam members, however. I hear Aeromexico can really be a problem, as they often put travel embargoes on Delta employees. Air France won't board you in business class. I don't know anyone who has used Alitalia yet. Normally we just fly Delta across the pond, and then take the trains once we get there.
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RE: How Do U Non Rev

Sun Jun 15, 2003 2:42 am

Is it possible to non rev on flights that go to a country that you would require a visa for? Is there a way to get the visa quickly? For instance, as far as I know, a visa is required for an American to go to Australia. Let's pretend that Mr. Bob is a flight attendant at United Airlines and he lives in Los Angeles. Mr. Bob finds out that the loads on the Friday night flight to SYD on UAL are very low and he can certainly get on. He also knows that the loads on the return flight on Sunday morning are also very low, so he can get onto that too and be back Sunday before he flies his next flight on Monday. He decides on Friday morning that he is in the mood to fly, so wants to take these flights. Would there be a way for him to get a visa on that same day?

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RE: How Do U Non Rev

Sun Jun 15, 2003 3:19 am

Mr. Bob can only get a visa as fast as the Australian Government chooses to provide him with one. NonRevs are required to have the same documents as any other passenger on the aircraft. If not, they don't go. I don't what it is now, but ten years ago the Aussie's fined airlines $1,000 AUD per passenger if they arrived without a valid visa in hand.
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RE: How Do U Non Rev

Sun Jun 15, 2003 3:21 am

I believe you can buy an Australian Visa at check-in through the airline, but I'm not completely certain.
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RE: How Do U Non Rev

Sun Jun 15, 2003 3:32 am

"I believe you can buy an Australian Visa at check-in through the airline, but I'm not completely certain"

That could very well be true now. Ten years ago it took me several days and a visit to the Australian consulate to get one.
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RE: How Do U Non Rev

Sun Jun 15, 2003 3:57 am

About the employment dates, does your position on the list depend on when you were hired compared to the others on the list? Then I guess it would be a good idea to pick a flight with few non-revs in the queue.

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RE: How Do U Non Rev

Sun Jun 15, 2003 4:35 am

Speaking of Australian Visas, I got one on the Internet a few weeks ago. It was a really simple process, took only a couple of minutes, and the visa is good for a year. I was really impressed with the system they have in place.
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RE: How Do U Non Rev

Sun Jun 15, 2003 5:31 am

Visas are one thing you do have to be careful about when travelling standby. If you are going to a country like Russia where the visa is date specific, you will want your exit date to be showing at least a few days later than when you actually plan on making your return flight. You dont want to get bumped and have a visa expire.

Also, nonrevs have to keep in mind that visas, rental cars, and places to stay cost money too, so one has to plan their flights carefully. It would be sad to prepay a hotel, car, and visa only to find yourself number 65 on a list on an oversold flight. If you got bumped, you might just have to eat the cost of the visa. Rental cars and hotels are best obtained where you can reserve them without putting down a credit card deposit (such as on That way, if you do not get on, then you can log on quickly and cancel those reservations.

I am very conservative with nonrev travel. You wont usually see me attempting Orlando, Europe, or Hawaii in the summer. Also, it is a prime rule that the return flights home look good before leaving. If the outbound flight(s) are questionable, then it is not too bad. At least if you get bumped, you are still at home. Nonrevs must be very careful and ensure that they get home before it is time to work. There is not much leeway given if you tell your boss that you could not make it because you were stuck somewhere.

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