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Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:20 am

Hey

Please pardon my english, i hope it makes sense!

I was wondering whether we're allowed to take photos while the OLD plane take off and landing?

The old planes (such as B732, MD 80 series, DC 9 and DC 10) don't have LCDs and computers in the instrument panel because it doesn't interfere to it whereas the new planes - it does!

Thanks
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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:37 am

I recall reading from one of our airline pilots on the forum, that the reason they ask for passengers not to take pictures and use electronic devices, is to keep the passenger's attention in case of an emergency. He said that REALLY, there is no interference with the navigation systems. Whether or not you are allowed, depends on the airline. If during the safety procedures video they state that this is prohibited, do not take pictures to keep yourself out of trouble.

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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:49 am

I took pictures during landing in an Air Transat L1011. I used a really old, totally mechanical SLR camera so I knew it couldn't possibly interfere with anything.
 
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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:53 am

I do it all the time and I've never been asked to stop.
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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:49 am

I'm gonna try it a few times on Saturday when I go NWA to MDW. I'm just going to turn off the sound, yes it's digital, and I'll see what happens. The flight attendants can't see you when they are seated for takeoff. I'll be on a 757 on the way back, so I'll be in the middle while the F/As'll be in the back!

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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:59 am

I have a best friend that says he does it all the time with his digital camera but I only do it if the pilots say it's ok when I go visit the cockpit before the flight. Most of them on Delta have said yes but a few have said no. Oh well.
 
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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 12:23 pm

On American you are not allowed to take pictures of aircraft while taxiing, I assume that's if you have a digital camera. They say in the safety demonstration videos that all electronic devices must remained turned off during take off and landing, that's to avoid interference with aircraft navigation and communication systems. If you are using a simple disposable camera there's no problem with that, is there? You can carry a digital camera in your carry on luggage, the security agents won't bother you with that, as long as during taxi, take off and landing, it remains turned off and you don't touch it. Keep in mind that if the F/A tells you to turn it off, it is for YOUR safety.

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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 12:36 pm

I do it all the time.

 
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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 12:37 pm

A friend of mine is a capt for AA; I've asked him about bringing and using digital cameras in flight, and he said theres no problem. In fact, he took my D30 on a trip, used it in fight, and sends me inflight photos nearly every trip from his Sony digicam. I used my D30 on all AA flights I've been on, from gate to gate without question...but maybe it's because they knew I knew the captain  Big grin

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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 4:50 pm

I've never had a problem taking photos while take off and landing with my automatic SLR, but when I flew on AMM last month I was told off for using my video camera while taxying, as I wanted to video the takeoff!

I was seated right in sight of the crew though, so next time I'll try to sit a bit further back so they can't see me!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 5:31 pm

I also do it all the time, and I've never been asked to stop.

But as a precautionary measure, I hide my digital camera when the FAs pass by.

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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 6:29 pm

Er... actually, even with the new plane, it is possible !

The fist pic was done on take-off in an AF A318 (I had asked the F/A if it was okay to take pictures, she said yes - and not yes, bet stow it before taking off)


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The next one has been taken upon landing while in the jumpseat of the same aircraft. Once again, I asked the captain if pictures were okay in the cockpit (always do)


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So... not really a fuss. Digital camera are not cell phones, they don't have the same emission level, heck, they are designed not to emit radiation !

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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 7:22 pm

This is a shot I took taking off from Melbourne airport.



After taking the shot I did wonder whether a digital camera was considered electronic equipment.

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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 7:24 pm

Whether they're designed to emit radiation or not, they do! There HAVE been cases of EM-interference from electrical items, and you don't really want the autopilot disconnecting due to the interference at the end of a CAT III approach do you?

That being said, I think the biggest argument against taking pictures is that in the event of a crash, the camera will become a pretty lethal projectile. Whether you want good pictures or not is a moot point when your D60 slams into the face of the 7 year old in the seat behind you. It's not a big risk, but if the airline think it's a big enough one, put the camera away. Don't sneak it out for Christ's sake.

They even managed to blame a camera for the TU-144 crash at Paris!
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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 7:28 pm

The ambient radiation of developments around most landing zones is far greater than what 1 camera-per-seat could generate.

Lufthansa is using 802.11b wi-fi for their internet product with Boeing - talk about radiation, when those are on high power output they put out a significant wattage.

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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 7:39 pm

That being said, I think the biggest argument against taking pictures is that in the event of a crash, the camera will become a pretty lethal projectile

Now, that is very good and valid point. I also thought about that during my last flights (there had been a thread about that a few weeks back), so I always keep my camera tied to me by the strap, so it does not become a lethal projectile (at the worst, hurt my wrist).

Another reason I do that, is the fact that in the unlikely event of an emergency, I don't want to lose my camera, I want to be able to take those million hits/many $ photos from inside the plane  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 8:15 pm

There is no danger to the electronics of an airplane in the form of a camera. Anyone who says there might be, is pulling your leg. A popular item for aviation nuts are those Flight In the Cockpit videos. There the camera is running the whole flight, especially during take-off and landing.

Nor is there any projectile danger. If you are holding the camera, the worse that can happen is that it can hit the seat in front of you. And remember that an airplane is not a car. It can not just stop dead in its tracks, except from a slow taxi speed.
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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 8:33 pm

Lufthansa is using 802.11b wi-fi for their internet product with Boeing - talk about radiation, when those are on high power output they put out a significant wattage.

Connexion is certified for use on aircraft though! Digital cameras emit radiation, but have never been approved for use on aircraft! The risk may be small, but is not taking pictures a huge price to pay?

Nor is there any projectile danger. If you are holding the camera, the worse that can happen is that it can hit the seat in front of you. And remember that an airplane is not a car. It can not just stop dead in its tracks, except from a slow taxi speed.

Holding the camera? Even a small bit of turbulence could make you drop it. Straps are a bit better, that still doesn't stop you being hit in the face with the camera if it faces an impact. Remember, aircraft will experience an acceleration of upto a few gs in regular flight, through turbulence and heavy landings.
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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 9:19 pm

There is no projectile danger if the camera drops to the floor. No turbulence, no matter how extreme, will create a horizontally-traveling projectile. So there is no danger to the passenger in front. An airplane can not stop in the air. There is nothing to stop it. If an airplane was to just stop dead in its tracks, that would mean it just slammed into another airliner or it slammed into the ground.
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RE: Take Photos While Take Off And Landing

Mon Jun 16, 2003 9:22 pm

Somehow I don't think that my Pentax H1B puts out that much radiation.

Just wait for the instructions for the flight crew to take their seats, don't ask them.

That way you can just look dumb if they complain, if they see you from their crew seats.
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