Joni
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2003 Order Tally

Mon Jun 16, 2003 9:42 pm


After today's orders at the Paris Air Show, the order tally seems to be

Airbus 197
Boeing 81 (including 45 planes for ANA, the contract for which will be signed later).

 
N754PR
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RE: 2003 Order Tally

Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:37 pm

How many of those planes that "WILL NEVER FLY BECAUSE THERE IS NO NEED FOR THEM" has airbus sold to date?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Bush, your a sad, sad man.
 
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RE: 2003 Order Tally

Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:45 pm

N754pr: ????????????
 
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RE: 2003 Order Tally

Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:39 pm

Re: N754pr
I guess you must be referring to the 40+ A380's that Emirates has purchases. I have been thinking about that, and I dont think it is as crazy as some people think. This past week I read an article about Emirates in Aviation Week Space & Technology, and even though I forgot the specifics, it mentioned that Emirates has done an incredible job of cutting costs, and they work very hard at that. Personally I wish Emirates all the best, because it is an airline that strives to cut costs and increase profits, but it does not sacrifice quality of the flight for the passengers. I wish some of the US majors would try to implement that strategy. Getting back to the A380's I am pretty sure they could have easily used that 1st batch of 23 that they ordered a couple of years ago. Some of the big routes they have are to London, Frankfurt, Paris, Honk Kong, Singapore, Johnasberg, Sydney, Tokyo, and Melbourne to name a few. Also the 1st purchase included a couple of freighters, but I dont know if this purchase includes those. And because all the A380's wont be delivered for many years, they are sure to have some new routes that can support the airplane. One more thing is that the 1st batch was purchases at a great discount/introduction price, but I dont know about this batch. The only thing that concerns me and I am still trying to make sense of, is where they are going to use all those A340-600's and B773's after the A380 starts replacing them on the main routes.
 
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RE: 2003 Order Tally

Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:42 pm

Airbus and Emirates shows what governments can do when they play with funny money. It will be a hoot to watch Emirates have to operate all these massive planes and their massive bills when the oil wells dry up.
"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
 
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RE: 2003 Order Tally

Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:01 am

It will be a hoot to watch Emirates have to operate all these massive planes and their massive bills when the oil wells dry up.

Oil is a freely-traded market commodity. If fuel costs rise enough to hurt Emirates, they hurt every other carrier too. Proportionately more so, in fact; because Emirates generally run with better load factors, which implies lower fuel burn per passenger km.

Airbus and Emirates shows what governments can do when they play with funny money.
There are plenty of other threads for arguing "Airbus / Emirates is subsidised" / "No it isn't".
I doubt it belongs in a thread called "2003 Order Tally".

The only thing that concerns me and I am still trying to make sense of, is where they are going to use all those A340-600's and B773's after the A380 starts replacing them on the main routes.
A340s and B777s on their thinner routes maybe?  Smile
Or just sell them...

What other big sales-fests are there on this year's calendar?
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RE: 2003 Order Tally

Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:22 am

"Airbus and Emirates shows what governments can do when they play with funny money. It will be a hoot to watch Emirates have to operate all these massive planes and their massive bills when the oil wells dry up."

As Emirates has stated in every single press release and annual report ever, they are profitable and receive no funding from the government.

Unless you can produce a balance sheet.

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RE: 2003 Order Tally

Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:49 am

Its Hong Kong  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

The A380 is already showing people its going to work, just can't wait to see one!!
Bush, your a sad, sad man.
 
Joni
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RE: 2003 Order Tally

Tue Jun 17, 2003 3:11 am


The UAE has it both ways.. if oil is expensive they make money selling it, and if it's cheap Emirates makes more money  Big grin