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Mystery Plane Over NYC

Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:02 pm

Saturday evening (June 14, 2003) at about 4:00 PM, a storm system was moving into NYC from the north. Black clouds coming our way looked really cool, and I knew we were about to get pounded.

I was in the car with my father driving north, and I saw a plane going East-Southeast over College Point (CP is across Flushing Bay, about one mile east of La Guardia Airport) at about 1,000 feet.

This direction at this altitude is very weird. It wasn't trying to climb, jsut maintaining its height. There is no approach or departure route for LGA that would bring this aircraft over this town in that direction or at that height.

The weird part was how it looked. It looked like an MD-80 in the sense that it was rear-engined and was long, but it had winglets.

The color wa that off-white that you often see on south-american air force airliners(does that make sense? lol). It looked like it had a black stripe down the side and the bottom might have been gray.

Was I seeing things? What was this? It looked like this guy was avoiding the storm, coming from the direction of it. I just don't have a clue about this.

Anyone?
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RE: Mystery Plane Over NYC

Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:09 pm

Comair Canadair RJ?


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RE: Mystery Plane Over NYC

Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:33 pm

No, it was a LOT bigger.

Closer to an MD-80.
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RE: Mystery Plane Over NYC

Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:01 am

CRJ700 ?

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RE: Mystery Plane Over NYC

Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:02 am

One of them 727's with winglets? If it wasn't for the winglets it could have easily been a USAF/USN C-9, or a foreign government Gulfstream of some sort. I can't think of any aircraft that is not a bizjet that has winglets and rear mounted engines. Of course there is the Tu-334, but it can't possibly be the a/c you saw!  Smile


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RE: Mystery Plane Over NYC

Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:12 am

Hmm, the CRJ-700/900 would probably do the trick, do Horizon/America West fly to LGA?


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RE: Mystery Plane Over NYC

Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:14 am

Some bizjets (Global Express, Challenger, GV) can look as big as a narrowbody commercial plane, particularly if seen out of context (e.g. low, overhead and not with other aircraft or buildings).

 
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RE: Mystery Plane Over NYC

Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:21 am

How about Pan Am Boeing 727-200 with winglet, I've had the pleasure of seeing some up close in SFB (KSFB). If it might be one those aircraft, the next question would be why is it flying into KLGA maybe possibly as a charter??


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RE: Mystery Plane Over NYC

Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:52 am

I don't think it was the bigger CRJs. I think Comair is flying them now out of LGA, too, though. But it wasn't that.

It looked closer to what LY744 posted, but longer like an MD-80. The winglets were certainly not very big.

I was thinking it might have been Russian. I don't know Russian planes too well, but it might have been.

Man, what an eerie looking plane that was.
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RE: Mystery Plane Over NYC

Tue Jun 17, 2003 1:48 am

It could have been an ERJ-145XR en route to EWR. Those planes are very narrow, but also very long (19 rows)

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RE: Mystery Plane Over NYC

Tue Jun 17, 2003 1:58 am

sometimes I see Horizon CRJ 700's heading into SEA and from a distance the size can be deceptive.
 
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RE: Mystery Plane Over NYC

Tue Jun 17, 2003 4:07 am

Phil, try this site, maybe it will help...
http://www1.passur.com/jfk
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RE: Mystery Plane Over NYC

Tue Jun 17, 2003 8:53 am

I agree with Beltwaybandit- probably corporate (a lot of companies have converted MD80's or 727s w/ winglets, if it wasn't something else).
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RE: Mystery Plane Over NYC

Tue Jun 17, 2003 4:27 pm

Flyguy1.........that is a pretty neat web site!
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