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A Question About This Year's Air Show In Paris

Tue Jun 17, 2003 1:27 am

Why aren't too many American aircraft there? Is it some kind of protest?
 
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RE: A Question About This Year's Air Show In Paris

Tue Jun 17, 2003 1:52 am

Is it some kind of protest?

Yes.

Oh, you wanted the long answer..?  Smile

No senior officers, restrictions on what hardware is going (and how it's showed off), and some firms have reduced their presence too.
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RE: A Question About This Year's Air Show In Paris

Tue Jun 17, 2003 2:56 am

You (airliner.net members) won't consider Americans "cowards" just because they didn't fly at the Air Show, do you?
 
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RE: A Question About This Year's Air Show In Paris

Tue Jun 17, 2003 3:20 am

Though some US companies have said in recent years that they doubt the actual business case for attending airshows, as regards generating sales, this US non-appearance at Paris 2003 seems a case of 'cutting off your nose to spite your face'.
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RE: A Question About This Year's Air Show In Paris

Tue Jun 17, 2003 3:52 am

I doubt "cowards" is the right word. Flying in France is hardly dangerous!  Smile

A small number of people (including, unfortunately, some big politicians, and journalists, on both sides of the Atlantic) seem to have been very childish in the last few months. This hardly applies to hundreds of millions of people, though, and I don't think most senior managers in the aviation industry are going to earn their bonus by being childish with [potential] customers.
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RE: A Question About This Year's Air Show In Paris

Tue Jun 17, 2003 4:26 am

Not cowards, more like 'silly' and 'ridiculous' (being diplomatic).

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RE: A Question About This Year's Air Show In Paris

Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:36 am

One thing that is actually kind of odd is the fact that US is supposedly the "leader of capitalism." Doesn't it seem kind of odd that the US Government is telling the aerospace industy that it can't go to Paris "because they (the French) were against us"? Doesn't this kind of sound like COMMUNISM?!  Wow!
 
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RE: A Question About This Year's Air Show In Paris

Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:37 am

Okay, maybe I was being a little crazy when I mentioned the word "communism."
 
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RE: A Question About This Year's Air Show In Paris

Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:03 am

I don't remember anyone making a boycott of France "Official", I think people and companies make their own decisions.

If a aerospace company decides not to go Paris to get on the good side of the current administration so what, it's not the same thing as a totalitarian Government ordering their people not to do something.

And besides there are many US Comapanies (Boeing and Honeywell included) at the Paris air show, this years contingent is smaller than previous years but that can be attributed to many factors. Lingering anger at the French Government, and the current economic and aviation slow down means there's not to many buying. So why splurge on folks who are "just browsing", orders are won in board room meetings. Not at airshows.

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RE: A Question About This Year's Air Show In Paris

Tue Jun 17, 2003 9:32 am

orders are won in board room meetings. Not at airshows
If so, then how can so many businesses cost-justify appearing at airshows year after year?

I agree in part - it's often an opportunity to show off some contract that was signed weeks ago, or some product that might have been available last month or might not be in production until xmas, or or or...

However, airshows are still an excellent opportunity to push presentations, wine and dine potential buyers, check out the competition's stand, cajole would-be buyers, and so on.

If it doesn't make economic sense for US firms to make a big effort, then you must wonder why everybody else is bothering to make an effort.
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RE: A Question About This Year's Air Show In Paris

Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:09 pm

"If it doesn't make economic sense for US firms to make a big effort, then you must wonder why everybody else is bothering to make an effort."

For the same reason there's no major airshow in the US, it makes no economic sense.

It's a luxury, one not afforded well to investors and Unions when people are being laid off.
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