eg777er
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653 Passengers In An Emirates A380

Fri Jun 20, 2003 1:30 am

Hi there.....

In the official EK press release at http://www.emirates.com/ekbilliondeal/EK_Press_pack.doc, the company mentions 3 A380 configurations:

533 seats, F/J/Y
653 seats, either F/Y or J/Y (going by usual EK standards).
500 seats, for non-stop services to Oz from Dubai (more luxury?)

Is the A380-800 certified for 653 seats?
 
Mit
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RE: 653 Passengers In An Emirates A380

Fri Jun 20, 2003 1:55 am

Dubai to SYD is no longer than LAX-SYD. Why the payload restriction?
 
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RE: 653 Passengers In An Emirates A380

Fri Jun 20, 2003 1:59 am

Perhaps it's not due to payload restrictions, but rather to increase comfort? If you are going to be in a seat for 14-15-16 hours, you ought to be seated a bit more comfortable than during a 10-hour flight.
 
artsyman
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RE: 653 Passengers In An Emirates A380

Fri Jun 20, 2003 2:07 am

Since when did Emirates care about your comfort and space in coach ? Unlike virtually every other airline with 9 across in coach of a 777, they cram in 10 across.

Jeremy
 
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RE: 653 Passengers In An Emirates A380

Fri Jun 20, 2003 2:24 am

10 across does seem a little tight. What is the legroom like though?

I know BA have 31 or 32" and I'm sure Emirates has something more generous.
 
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RE: 653 Passengers In An Emirates A380

Fri Jun 20, 2003 2:25 am

I read a very very recent article.

Emirates said that there "will be no bars and gymnasiums" and that these "planes are designed to carry passengers" which they will do.

Maybe that's a good summary of the mentality.
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Jean Leloup
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RE: 653 Passengers In An Emirates A380

Fri Jun 20, 2003 2:26 am

Well, I don't think the A380-800 is certified for any amount of seats yet. I don't believe the evacuation tests have been done. (This is the determining factor, correct?) Can these be done on a mock-up, or do they have to wait until they have a 'real' plane?
Next flight.... who knows.
 
artsyman
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RE: 653 Passengers In An Emirates A380

Fri Jun 20, 2003 2:29 am

Emirates said that there "will be no bars and gymnasiums" and that these "planes are designed to carry passengers" which they will do.
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This will be the same for every carrier, bums on seats and cargo pay the bills. Gyms and Swimming pools do not. Besides, could you imagine being in the pool during turbulence when half the pool empties down the aisle putting the aircraft in a dive.... get real.

With yields what they are, people will need the 600 odd bums in order to make it pay.
 
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RE: 653 Passengers In An Emirates A380

Fri Jun 20, 2003 10:29 pm

"Since when did Emirates care about your comfort and space in coach ? Unlike virtually every other airline with 9 across in coach of a 777, they cram in 10 across."

And they give you loads of legroom. At 6ft 1, I found Emirates Economy class seating to be very comfortable; the 10-abreast seating on a 777 was tight, but not obnoxiously so. And the seats are very well crafted, so they are quite comfortable.
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LH423
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RE: 653 Passengers In An Emirates A380

Sat Jun 21, 2003 2:47 am

I remember being quite shocked once being able to look at a EK 773 seating chart at work and seeing it was 3-4-3. I couldn't figure out if I was looking at it right, because I had never seen such a config before. That's gotta be tight.

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EGGD
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RE: 653 Passengers In An Emirates A380

Sat Jun 21, 2003 2:53 am

Its the same config in BA 777's configured for flights to the Caribbean
 
luchtzak
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RE: 653 Passengers In An Emirates A380

Sat Jun 21, 2003 3:15 am

Hi all,

the maximum allowed passengers on an aircraft is calculated so that all passengers can evacuate the aircraft in 90 seconds with only half of the floor-levels (big doors with double evacuation slide) available. My guess is that Airbus allready calculated to 653 (full economy-class) seats.

Of course other airlines will install business-class and first-class seats so that the amount of passengers will drop to approx. 533 seats.

ciao,

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RE: 653 Passengers In An Emirates A380

Sat Jun 21, 2003 4:31 am

Let's hope one will never crash. getting 653 people out of an A380 despite calculations will only become a big mess.

I'm not thrilled travelling on the titanic of the sky...

rgds. PH
 
luchtzak
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RE: 653 Passengers In An Emirates A380

Sat Jun 21, 2003 4:47 am

Well no!

on the aircraft there will be at least 12 flight attendants! Almost one on each door... For commercial reasons they will uplift to approx. 17 my guess!

ciao,

luchtzak
 
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RE: 653 Passengers In An Emirates A380

Sat Jun 21, 2003 6:23 am

653 pax A380 for Hadj service? make sense!

TK

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