Noise
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45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 1:17 am

Hi, this summer my parents are planning to fly YUL-ATL-LAS with DL. They are not too crazy about the CRJ that flies 3 times daily between YUL and ATL, so they'd do anything to fly one of the 2 daily MD-80s on that route. I found the perfect flight for them, the problem is the connection time at ATL is only 45 minutes. Is that enough? Should there be a longer connection time for an airport like ATL?

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Dazed767
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 1:20 am

As long as their flight isn't delayed, or they don't have to run from one side of the airport to the other (Concourse A to E) they might be fine.
 
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 1:22 am

Thanks a lot. Is there a way I can find out which gates the aircrafts will depart from?
 
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Eno

Sun Jun 22, 2003 1:38 am

If your flight from Montreal is delayed for 10 or 15 minutes, you will probably have to give strong consideration to running. My guess is that the LAS flight will depart from A or B, and the flight from Montreal will arrive at E.
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 1:50 am

If you take an MD88, you'll land is concourse A or B.. There is no need to go through immigration at ATL, because all passengers are pre-cleared in Canada.

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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 2:18 am

I've made a 35 min connection before going jumping two terminals over at ATL (I wanna say B-D but don't quote me on that.) Of course I was sprinting and panting and my heart was racing the entire time as I wasn't sure I was going to make it. Oh the fun of ATL Smile
 
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 2:23 am

They are not too crazy about the CRJ that flies 3 times daily between YUL and ATL

I thought AC's YUL-ATL was going to be discontinued.

http://www.yyznews.com/May.html

[Edited 2003-06-21 19:28:40]
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 2:54 am

Noise,

for the next few days, go to delta.com, then do a flight status on those two flights and observe the gate that YUL flight arrives at in atlanta, and the gate that LAS flight takes off from. you'll notice that those flights will arrive/depart from almost the same gate(or at least the same terminal).
 
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 3:12 am

With a short connection time like that, I would be very careful. It seems like there are way too many things that could happen that could make you misconnect. You could be seated at the back of the plane and have to wait for everyone in front of you to get their bags and deplane. As JCS17 said, if you are delayed in YUL for any reason, you have that going against you. Also, there could be gate changes. I would hate to see you misconnect because an indicator light burned out in the cockpit in YUL, they seated you in 45F, the jetway driver was real slow in ATL, and you had to go from E to A Concourse.

I would say that 60% of the flights I have taken this year have pushed back late due to slight mechanical issues, weather, or no explanation at all. About 30% of the flights have been late arriving due waiting for an available gate. These have all resulted in late arrivals ranging from 15 minutes to an hour, so that is why I would be very jittery about a 45 minute connection.
 
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 4:38 am

I've made a 40 minute connection at ATL before - I believe one flight came in at A and the other left at D, and neither gate was near the tram, leading to a bit of sprinting. Actually once I got to the tram, it was smooth sailing from there, I just had to do a bit of fast walking.
 
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 4:52 am

45 minutes is a very tight at a huge airport like ATL.....you do not mention the age of your parents, but running may be involved, especially if, as mentioned above, their inbound flight is delayed even a couple of minutes. ATL can get very crowded at peak hub times, and if your parents are carrying a couple of carry-ons, it will be difficult for them to sprint through the terminal. Also remember that they will have to wait for the train to connect between terminal buildings. Why deal with the stress? If they do not make the connection, they will have to spend a good amount of time at ATL going to passenger services, arrange for rebooking, and have to hope that they can get seats on the next flight to Las Vegas. During the peak summer season, they may have to stand by or wait a few hours until seats are available.

My suggestion would be to leave at least 1.25 to 1.5 hours between flights, which will give adequate time to connect, allows a cushion in case of a delay, and also gives your parents time to get something to eat. Its vacation, why make things difficult - maybe you can find another connection, that avoids the CRJ flites that allows more connection time.
 
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 5:10 am

My suggestion would be to leave at least 1.25 to 1.5 hours between flights...

I disagree; 45 minutes is more than enough time at ATL. Even if his parents walk at a slow-to-moderate pace, it shouldn't take them more than 25 minutes to get between the furthest points of the airport. And most of the time, it shouldn't take more than 5-15 minutes to walk from your arriving - departing gates.

If your parent's flight is delayed, big deal - DL will reaccomodate them on the next flight. You shouldn't worry about those things when making a reservation.

[Edited 2003-06-21 22:15:00]
 
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 5:27 am

Would a flight arriving from Canada have to clear customs in Atlanta? If so, 45 minutes would be way too close. Are the flights you found published in DL's system as valid connecting flights. If they aren't and you miss your plane, you may be S.O.L. for getting to LAS.
 
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 8:33 am

Passengers flying to the US out of YUL clear customs at YUL before boarding. The flight from ATL to LAS will either be a 757 or a 767. If it is a 767, it will probably depart from either Concourse A or possibly Concourse T. An MD-80 flight will likely arrive at either Concouse B or D. Needless to say a change of concourses will likely be required. If the flight is on time, 45 minutes should be plenty of time. If not, it could be scramble. The concoures at ATL are long. The underground shuttle arrives and departs from the center of each concourse. If the arriving flight from YUL arrives near the shuttle station in one concourse and the departing flight to LAS departs near the other shuttle station, than it will be easy to connect (only a small hike). If one of the flights departs or arrives from the end of one of the concourses, then there will be a longer hike, and a longer connection time would be required.

On advantage to DL's hub at ATL is the frequency of flights. If for chance your parents missed their connecting flight to LAS, they could probably be re-booked on the next flight (provided it is not full) and only be stuck for say two to three hours. All of this assumes of course that the flight to LAS you want to book them on is not the last flight of the day.

I would check the on-time performance of the flight from YUL-ATL...most travel search engines have these statistics. If it has a good on-time performance, I would say that 45 minutes should be enough time.
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 8:49 am

I go through ATL couple of times a month, and I would try the 45 minute connection with one provision -- don't plan on the last flight to LAS -- give yourself a later option in case of delay.

Goingboeing....arrival from Canada is considered domestic, as US customs is cleared at YUL prior to departure.

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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 8:59 am

Listen its no problem...When I was 15 by myself i went T to D in 5-6 min...i made my plane perfectly...we were late out of pbi but i made it to the gate in 5-6 min and i was in the back of a 757
 
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 3:36 pm

while we're talking about connecting times, I'm flying from MEM to BDL in July, with a stop each way in CVG. on the way there, I have a 45 minute connection - will that be enough? it's a CRJ on the way there connecting to mainline (757) - I haven't been to CVG as a connecting passenger, so I don't know... Thanks!
 
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 7:32 pm

If it's Delta's fault you miss the flight.......you get rebooked.
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They might hold it, I know jetBlue holds it sometimes if tehre are a few connecting pax.
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 11:01 pm

I made a 50-minute connection in ATL from B to C and had about 20 minutes to spare before boarding. Shouldn't have any trouble unless you have a delay but don't waste any time.

727_gal: 45 minutes should be enough, you'll be flying out of Concourse A or B for your flight. You just take a bus from C to A or B. The bus takes a few minutes. Shouldn't have any trouble unless you have a delay.
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 11:16 pm

Go for it. At worst you have to sit around for a few hours. First Go to Popeyes and eat a bunch of chicken to make your self sick, then go to the 'exclusive' Crown Room where you will discover that every single person in the ATL airport and the Southeast seems to be a member and is in the Crown Room all fighting for the same seat. If that fails, you could always ride the MARTA and really discover what is meant by the 7th cirlce of Hell (TrAAm at DFW excluded as it has an honor all to its own).
Just kidding, but 45 mins. is a world of plenty. Just don't linger
 
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 11:28 pm

Thanks a lot guys. I have been to ATL before, and it is a great airport to connect at. My only problem is that, as many people have stated before, being delayed due to weather or stupid little mechanical failures.

Running is unfortunatley out of the question for my parents. My mom had neck surgery where 3 disks were replaced, so it would be very hard for her to run.

Any way, I'm going to look into it. Hopefully they'll arrive at the same concourse.

Again, thanks a lot guys, I really appreciate your advice!
 
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Mon Jun 23, 2003 1:20 am

One time I made a 17 minute connection domestic to internation in ATL (A to E), but I was lucky as hell and had nothing to slow me down. Parents, don't try this at home, I'm a professional!
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Mon Jun 23, 2003 6:00 am

727_gal: You just take a bus from C to A or B.

This is correct, but I want to clarify that there are separate buses to A and B -- make sure you follow the signs to the correct one. (If you end up in the wrong concourse, it's not a big problem, as there is a train connecting A and B, but that will eat into your time.)

Pete
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Mon Jun 23, 2003 6:07 am

Thanks a lot guys. I have been to ATL before, and it is a great airport to connect at. My only problem is that, as many people have stated before, being delayed due to weather or stupid little mechanical failures.

Again, 45 minutes shouldn't be a problem. Most of the time, your flight will arrive early or on-time -- it's very rare that it will be delayed. And if it is, you'll be put on the next available flight so it isn't any big deal. None of the flights operating to LAS utilize BusinessElite equipment, so it's unlikely you'll have to connect via E. Most of the time you'll be connecting within or between A and B, and sometimes C.

Again, 45 minutes is plenty of time... if the flight is delayed for whatever reason, you'll be reaccomodated onto the next flight.
 
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Eno

Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:01 am

45 minutes is enough time for both ATL and CVG. I would assume that the Montreal would use A or B (as others have said), LAS would be using T or A (or maybe B). The way I've seen it, the flights to Delta hubs, plus 767-400 flights use the T gates, flights to major cities that aren't hubs are at A, midsize mainline flights get B, C is for ASA, D is for Song, Comair, and smaller cities that get mainline, and E is for flights that have BusinessElite (I have boarded DL 763s at E on ATL-BOS flights, but only ones that are internationally configured), as well as 767-400s (DL only has a few gates in T, and only the T, E, and maybe some A gates can handle the 764).

Jeff
 
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:05 am

A little off topic here but does Comair flights use only D or do they also use C as well?
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:27 am

BH:
Comair and ASA use C
ASA uses E for its Mexican flights and Canadian flights
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Enough?

Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:36 am

Okay, thanks for the clarification
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RE: 45 Minutes Connecting Time At ATL, Is That Eno

Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:51 am

When I was on my summer vacation in 2001, my Delta ALB-RSW flight made a stop in CVG, and there it was grounded due to an engine problem. I was rebooked on a 5:00 PM flight to ATL where I connected for a flight to RSW. The ATL flight came in late, and when I got to ATL, I dashed from my gate on D to the RSW flight at the T-gates. I figured I got there in less than 15 minutes, and had a little time to spare to go to the bathroom.

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