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Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Tue Jun 24, 2003 10:52 pm

Since threads are usually only riddled with speculative theories and things of that nature these days, I decided that it's about time for a practical post. This thread is mainly aimed at the people who are old enough to remember these times!

If you could take a step back 15-20 years, what would you want to see just one more time in regards to the aviation industry? What do you miss the most? Is it an aircraft that you would like to fly on that is not currently in service? Is it Southwest F/A's in hot pants and cowgirl boots? Is it sitting there in San Diego watching PSA all day long? Tell me what you specifically miss (and it doesn't have to be anything I said above...those are just examples of things that I'm looking for).

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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Tue Jun 24, 2003 10:59 pm

No security; no x-ray machines; no photo id; taking the family to the airport to watch the planes from the observation deck; visits to the cockpit during flight.
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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Tue Jun 24, 2003 11:24 pm

What I miss ? Running around up and down the aisle on a Pan Am 707 with nothing but my nappies on ! *oh hang on... that was the 70s!*

Well, bring back those crazy routes, like Sabena DC10 Brussels-Dubai-Bombay-Kuala Lumpur(or was it via BKK?)-Singapore!

The days when United was actually friendly ! Big grin

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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Tue Jun 24, 2003 11:48 pm

You hit it right on the nose. I do wish I was in San Diego watching PSA jets all day long.
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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Tue Jun 24, 2003 11:48 pm

My Dream of the perfect flight??

No Carry-on bags....or, at least, no rollerboards...yea!
 
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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Tue Jun 24, 2003 11:49 pm

I'd like to see:
FAs who knew what customer service meant;
Timetables;
Friendly faces at ticket counters and gates;
Paper tickets with red print on the copies;
707's, 727's, and DC-8's;
The parking lot at the end of Runway 17/35 at TUL;
No metal detectors; TSA agents; random checks; etc.
Braniff and all her rainbow fleet, especially the Great Pumpkin.

At least they're still there in my dreams.
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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Tue Jun 24, 2003 11:58 pm

I'd like to see Pan Am 747 clippers fly all over the world again
 
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:06 am

the Pan Am 747s

The roof top (Pan Am) obervation parking lot at JFK, with only that 3 foot fence.

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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:14 am

I remember going to the airport back in the 70's just to watch the flights depart and return, and the ability to walk all over the airport and see the goings and comings all evening long. I also miss the AA DC10's between DTW and ORD and the fact that they offered a full beverage service on these flights.
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:15 am

North Central Airlines!

And Braniff BAC-111 s (ok so i have gone back too far!)>>with hot omelette breakfasts , enroute from KC / KMKC), USA - Missouri">MKC-ORD.

Oh, and plane spotting on the westside of old Downtown KC Airport!
 
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:21 am

British Caledonian!

I wish they all could B.Cal-edonian girls!  Smile  Smile  Smile


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Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:21 am

4 columns of black smoke accompanied by ungodly noise as a jet with 4 sleek engines and well swept back wings, preferably a CV-880/990, takes to the sky, as watched from just outside the fence at runway's edge.

And my youth.
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:37 am

There are so many things I'd like to see or bring back, but I'll narrow it down and state my case simply by two photos:
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Here's to the past,
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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 1:10 am

What do I want back most?

Eastern Air Lines, in all her glory, circa 1985.

Braniff International's Flying Colors fleet

The days before Bob Crandall created "AAdvantage" where no frequent flier programs existed

Well-dressed, professional customers who wouldn't dream of wearing a tank top or flip-flops onboard an airplane

Briefcases instead of backpacks

Hot meals in coach, exquisite hot meals in First Class on fine china

Movies on a big screen at the front of the cabin instead of a million little screens in each seatback (reminds me of being at Best Buy for too long!).

The days before smoking was abolished onboard planes. Ladies and Gentlemen, the Captain has turned off the no smoking sign. Smoking is now permitted at your seat, but never in the aisles, lavatories, or non-smoking sections of the aircraft. Thank you.

The days where customers were told the fare and PAID it instead of haggling like they're on "Let's Make A Deal."
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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 1:16 am

I'd like to see Dan Air London grace the skies again. No other carrier had such a diverse fleet for European routes. If you knew a Dan Air flight was due in you were left guessing what aircraft type it would be as they loved to swap and change aircraft types on their routes.
In this day of fleet standardisation it is unlikely we will ever see another operator offer this variety of types on short-medium haul routes:
A300B4
B727-100/200
B737-200/300/400
146-100/300
1-11-200/400/500
HS748

They couldn't even make their minds up whether they wanted to be known as a scheduled or charter operator, they just went for everything! Just to top it off they had a very nice livery too.
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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 1:22 am

I would love to see Dallas Love Field in its heyday in the late 60s and early 70s. Being born in 1980, I never got to see Love Field in its true glory.
 
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 2:30 am

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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 2:44 am

Some memories from days gone by:

Eating baked Alaska in first class on Braniff DC-8.
Boarding the aircraft from the ground, and hearing the sounds of airplanes.
Going into the cockpit in flight.
Baggage destination tags that were pre-printed for each city.
Your seat assignment was selected at the gate from a big seat map with numbered sticky labels on them.
Leather seats in coach on Braniff.
Braniff's colorful fleet, including the Calder 727 & DC-8.

And the one that sounds incredible in this day and age:
Being served steak, on china, with silverware, free wine on a one hour flight on an all coach airline. This happened on the original Frontier between Wichita and Denver.

Today we don't get their any quicker, but maybe a little cheaper and with a lot more hassle.
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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 2:55 am

Back in the 1970ies Swissair had only 8 abreast in the DC 10's economy class (2-4-2) with plenty of legroom. In our days it is simply unbearable to fly economy on long flights with any airline.
 
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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:38 am

That's easy...The L1011's flying for TWA
 
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:40 am

I also miss the days when airlines had character, real style and charisma. Their fleets were colourful, with silver bellies and black noses, not the sterile euro-whites of today.

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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 4:17 am

American Airlines 707's back at CLE - along with Convair CV580's + CV600's from Wright Airlines and Freedom. BAC1-11's and 727's too.... Would love for my son to be able to see them!

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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 4:34 am

Things I would love to see again...

1. Braniff and the rainbow fleet
2. Pan Am 747-100's, Eastern L1011's, Western DC-10's
3. Hot eggs for breakfast in COACH!
4. BOAC!!
5. The word Stewardess and not Flight attendant
6. Stewardesses in hot pants and bee-hive haircuts
7. A Piano in AA's 747's
8. Mohawk, Allegheny, and Piedmont
9. Point-to-point service and no hub-and-spoke
10. TWA In its heyday at JFK terminal 5.

that's just a small list  Smile
 
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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 4:45 am

Here is partial list:

1. being able to fly mainline jets to/from most cities (SLE et al)
2. PSA, AirCal, Western, Eastern, Republic, TWA, PanAm, Braniff, the old
Continental scheme (meatball), the old Frontier, Hughes Air West, CP air
Wien Air Alaska
3. DC-8 & 727 aplenty
4. Being on the tarmac at most airports instead of jetways
5. Far less security
6. LAX before the 2nd level was built
7. No huge hub & spoke systems
 
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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 4:52 am

I'd like to see Delta and TWA TriStars, American and United DC-10s, and a healthy airline industry.
 
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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 5:02 am

Delta L1011-1/100's as well as TWA's
AA's DC-10's 10/30
UA's/TWA 747-100/200/Sp's
EA A300 B4's/L10's
All the things that I miss about my home town LAX from the 70's-late 90's although some lingered on until 2001.
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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 5:23 am

I'm with DodgeCharger. As I've said many times before, I'd give just about anything to see Dallas Love Field in its glory days in the early 1970s. The place must have been packed with aircraft and busy around the clock. Throw in a huge outdoor observation deck and it must have been airport nirvana.

Of course, I was born in 1981, so it's just a dream. For a long time, there were still lots of vestiges of the airport's past, but now even they are disappearing quickly.
 
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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want M

Wed Jun 25, 2003 5:25 am

I want to ride on another L-1011.

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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 5:25 am

I miss the L1011's of DL and EA flying from DTW to Florida offering not only the flight but a movie and a meal included with the price of the ticket! Southern Airways, Ozark, Braniff, PanAm, North Central, Northwest Orient. When both United and American offered Nonstop service from DTW to the West Coast.
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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 5:29 am

1. Pan American World Airways and BOAC

2. Airline clubs that you invited to join (not simply paying to join).

3. A/C seating charts on the wall behind the check-in desk at the gate, wherein you selected a seat and the sticker/tab was placed on your boarding pass.

4. Airline travel bags.

5. Upper deck lounges on 747-100s.

6. Delta 747s.




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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 5:53 am

I miss...

National Airlines DC-8-63's
Pan Am B-707's & B-747's
Airline Flight Bags
Airline Playing Card Decks
Downtown Airline City Ticket Offices
Being served a full meal, in coach, on china!
National Airlines' First Class Transcontinental meal service (which featured Joe's Stone Crab claws, with the mustard sauce, as an appetizer, and followed with hot hor d'ourves like Rumaki and cocktail smokies). The service never stopped during the flight!

There are a few of my favorite things....  Smile < sigh >

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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 7:01 am

I miss the days where many of the flights had open seats going out on them. Everyone could spread out. In addition to that, I agree with what most people have already said. It would be nice to return to the era where air travel was a great experience. Nowadays, most people treat it like a painful experience.
 
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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:26 pm

1. Getting to go down to the gates even if your not flying.
2. Seeing nicer people at the airport.
3. Getting to fly the classics.
4. Enjoying Flying
5. Actually being fed on flights. No Peanuts or snack mix.
6. No CRJs or Regional Jets.... only mainline.
7. Boarding on a stairway.
8. Terror free flights.


Think I don't miss:
1. Bad technology compared to today's standards
2. Bad security
3. Higher Prices
4. Bad maintenance on Aircraft
5. Bad Weather Info for flights
 
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RE: Bringing Back The Old Times-What Do You Want Most?

Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:56 pm

Watching the planes at ONT in the late 70's-early 80's:

Hughes AirWest DC-9's, then Republic DC-9's
AirCalifornia/AirCal 737's
Western 737's
.....and my personal favorite, those PSA 727's.....and working with PSA/ONT while in high school.

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