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NWA's Load And Yield For June

Thu Jun 26, 2003 10:30 am

Any idea what systemwide load is NWA operating in June so far? I have heard its over 82% and to Japan it is almsot 86%.

Also, any idea what the yield is in June vs. last year's yield in June?
 
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RE: NWA's Load And Yield For June

Thu Jun 26, 2003 10:40 am

I have heard its over 82% and to Japan it is almsot 86%.

This wouldn't surprise me as Continentals figures are currently pretty similar for the month

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RE: NWA's Load And Yield For June

Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:07 pm

Richard Anderson on employee hotline said domestic air traffic is 77% but did not talk about systemwide load factor
 
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RE: NWA's Load And Yield For June

Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:02 pm

Through the 24th of June, the month-to-date system load factor is 79.3% The past week or so has all been over 80%. With only 6 days left in the month and entering the 4th of July travel period, this weekend and next week should help finish the month at over 80%

June 2002 was 81.5%
June 2001 was 81.0%
June 2000 was 82.8%

NW likes to operate at a higher load factor that most of the other network carriers.
 
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RE: NWA's Load And Yield For June

Thu Jun 26, 2003 6:46 pm

NW likes to operate at a higher load factor that most of the other network carriers
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All carriers 'like' to operate at higher load factors than the others !!  Smile, but I agree, it seems as if NW has has slightly higher than the rest for the last few quarters anyway. Continental is at 79% going into today, so should also finish over 80%
 
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RE: NWA's Load And Yield For June

Thu Jun 26, 2003 6:50 pm

All carriers 'like' to operate at higher load factors than the others !!

I think he means that NWA focuses more on loads rather than yields when determining target traffic figures. You can generate $1000 of revenue by selling 100 tix at $10 or 50 tix at $20. You make the same money either way, but the load and yield varies.
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RE: NWA's Load And Yield For June

Thu Jun 26, 2003 7:31 pm

I think he means that NWA focuses more on loads rather than yields when determining target traffic figures.
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Northwest unlike the rest of the majors, has a yield premium in and out of its main hubs. Luckily for them, people like Jetblue are not all that interested in running high frequency into romantic hotspots like Detroit
 
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RE: NWA's Load And Yield For June

Thu Jun 26, 2003 8:14 pm

Those are impressive numbers!

Just goes to prove something I have always thought and believe in very much.

That people will always fly again and that I as an air traffic controller will always have planes to talk to  Big thumbs up

Before we know it we will be back where we were pre 9/11.
 
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RE: NWA's Load And Yield For June

Thu Jun 26, 2003 8:58 pm

Impressive numbers. NWA does operate at higher load. And I think their RASM is higher because of higher load than higher yield.

Any idea of yield of June?????
 
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RE: NWA's Load And Yield For June

Thu Jun 26, 2003 9:16 pm

analysts have predicted that Continental will lose $1.08 per share in the second quarter (results to be announced on July 17th), I am going to stick my neck out and say that Continental will blow the analysts results out of the water and declare a profit for the second quarter.

Yields generally go up when the load factors get this high. This is because the discount tickets always sell first, therefore when the plane gets full, some passengers are having to pay the higher prices
 
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RE: NWA's Load And Yield For June

Thu Jun 26, 2003 9:46 pm

Interestingly, Continental has said it will make small profits for the second quarter. We will see what happens.
 
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RE: NWA's Load And Yield For June

Thu Jun 26, 2003 10:03 pm

Yeah,

Highly doubtful that CO will lose $1.08 per share.
Once they announce that they "beat the analysts" look for the stock to go up a bit. Now, if we could only control the price of oil.....

Talk about a tail-kicker...

Off the topic a bit, but this quarter, CO will not have to take any "special" hits for retiring aircraft. Hasn't that hurt them a bit in recent quarters?

 
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RE: NWA's Load And Yield For June

Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:01 pm

Once they announce that they "beat the analysts" look for the stock to go up a bit. Now, if we could only control the price of oil.....
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Oil prices wont be affecting Continental a lot this quarter as they have hedged all their 2nd quarter fuel costs. Unfortunately they hedged at $33 and it is now less than that, although when it was up around $40 they were not suffering as bad as the others.
 
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RE: NWA's Load And Yield For June

Fri Jun 27, 2003 12:34 am

Thanks for the update there.
I wasn't sure when the last time CO stocked up...

$33 isn't bad then considering the price has come up a bit.
Wonder who bought when it was down around 25 a couple months ago???

 
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RE: NWA's Load And Yield For June

Fri Jun 27, 2003 12:39 am

Wonder who bought when it was down around 25 a couple months ago???
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I don't know, but I did manage to buy 385 shares of CAL stock at just over $3 and it is now almost $16
 
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RE: NWA's Load And Yield For June

Fri Jun 27, 2003 7:56 am

Any idea on the yield for NWA?