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"Smart" Airplane Seats

Sat Jul 05, 2003 1:32 pm

A UK firm is developing new airliner seats that could be used to monitor passenger behavior and physical condition. For instance it could (theoretically) detect if a passenger is unusually nervous (terrorist) or may suffer an impending DVT problem.

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RE: "Smart" Airplane Seats

Sat Jul 05, 2003 4:32 pm

Are you kidding me?

I'm sorry...but WHAT airline is going to put this in coach?!?!

Great concept, but not very realistic in terms of day-to-day airline ops!

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RE: "Smart" Airplane Seats

Sat Jul 05, 2003 4:51 pm

I hope God is with the people that Don't like flying either!
Please excuse my English!
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RE: "Smart" Airplane Seats

Sat Jul 05, 2003 6:19 pm

Wouldn't it be cheaper for airlines to just increase seat pitch and throw in a PTV in every seat?

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RE: "Smart" Airplane Seats

Sat Jul 05, 2003 8:11 pm

I'm not gonna pay the extra price for that crap.
When is this hysteria going to stop?! There's no 100% security, but by now I guess we are at 95%-98%...you can't make much more!
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RE: "Smart" Airplane Seats

Sat Jul 05, 2003 10:38 pm

I would show as nervous whenever I fly..just cause I'm nervous whenever I fly.
So does that make me a terrorist???
What now?
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RE: "Smart" Airplane Seats

Sat Jul 05, 2003 11:34 pm

I really did not have an opinion when I posted the link...just found it interesting. Perhaps my summary was not that good. I think the seat is a technology demonstrator for that firm rather than a product developed to improve security per se. Security is just one possible application of this technology.

I do not see this as particularly intrusive technology. Your computer or even car seat adjusts to you and your habits. Further, there really is no privacy aboard airplanes anyway. I am sure they will take into account nervous flyers when developing any product that is to be deployed.
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RE: "Smart" Airplane Seats

Sun Jul 06, 2003 1:52 am

I read about this on the BBC.
I can just see Gendarme-like American cabin crew members call law enforcement personnel upon arrival because a tall passenger fidgeted in his seat due to impending DVT on a transpacific flight. Then John Ashcroft will lock him up without due process for the next 2 years.
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RE: "Smart" Airplane Seats

Sun Jul 06, 2003 2:00 am

Distinguishing between a genuinely nervous passenger and a terrorist would be very difficult (read: expensive and/or unreliable) but not impossible.

The DVT side is a good idea too, but again it might be difficult to justify if they can pay rather less for a package of 2cm extra seat pitch, tweaked seat shapes, a short exercise/wellbeing video on the PTV, and a DVT prevention article in the inflight mag that nobody reads.
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RE: "Smart" Airplane Seats

Sun Jul 06, 2003 6:33 am

I don't think it would be necessarily that hard to distinguish between genuine troublemakers and nervous flyers. I would think the latter group would exhibit greater nervousness at takeoff, landing, or through turbulence and a computer could discount that through some algorithm. Further if someone is nervous from start to finish, that could be discounted as well.

However if someone exhibits anxiety for no apparent reason (no crying baby, argumentative spouse etc), at least the cabin crew could check up on the person if they are okay or to just keep an eye out.
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RE: "Smart" Airplane Seats

Sun Jul 06, 2003 5:10 pm

That means no more sex onboard?
Alto.. Mucho mas alto.. hasta la cumbre

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