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YYZ T3 Question

Mon Jul 07, 2003 10:43 pm

I took a Tango flight from Pearson Terminal 3 in May and was surprised to see a long check-in line up. I asked the ground agent why there wasn't any electronic kiosks for check-in and she said those kiosks were not allowed in that terminal. I also noticed none of the US airlines have electronic check-in in Terminal 3. Since then, Tango has moved back to Terminal 2 and electronic kiosks are being used again for Tango flights. Does anybody know why T3 does not allow those kiosks?
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RE: YYZ T3 Question

Tue Jul 08, 2003 12:26 am

Sadly, you're asking why the GTAA does or does not do something.

Nobody's been able to figure that one out yet!

As to why things are the way they are in Canadian terminal buildings, here's one you'll like:

In Calgary, a new wing opened about a year ago which is dedicated to WestJet flights as Air Canada whined long and hard about wanting the horseshoe. Prior to 911, the new viewing area within the terminal gave a fantastic view of the inside of the horseshoe and now all that can be seen (sort of) are Air Canada tails. More later...

Anyway, in the new wing which is quite long and now being used exclusively by WestJet, a horizontal escalator/travelator (I don't know what they're called - moving sidewalk, whatever) was going to go pretty well the entire length of the new wing. Well someone over at AC whined that they didn't have an equal length moving sidewalk on their side so WJ couldn't have one in theirs. And that's what's happened. Half a moving sidewalk.

Epilog - that great view once to be had of the horseshoe and all those teal tails has been forever obstructed in a significant way by "enhanced" security walkways/walls etc installed since 911.

Just thought this was a cute little story about how airport authorities in Canada can think/act. A lot of it is in reaction to complaints from a dominant operator at that airport.

Mind you, that's just an opinion  Big grin
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RE: YYZ T3 Question

Tue Jul 08, 2003 12:34 am

Interesting question. I don't see why one terminal would allow it while the others wouldn't. I'll give this thread a bump, because if there's a logical reason, I'm curious as to what it may be.
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RE: YYZ T3 Question

Tue Jul 08, 2003 12:41 am

I don't see why one terminal would allow it while the others wouldn't

I believe that the facilities at T1 and T2 are on long-term lease to Air Canada and hence they are permitted to install infrastructure there. T3 leases are short term and by daily assignment, hence precluding the installation of permanent infrastructure.

Similar reason to why Atlanta only permits Delta to install its flat screen monitors on concourses T, A, B and D - and not on E.
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RE: YYZ T3 Question

Tue Jul 08, 2003 7:57 am

B747-437B is right, T3 is common use, and as such ACA could not impose their will on the terminal. T1 and T2 are pretty much Air Canada run, they are leased by the airline and fitted by Air Canada, all of the computers and equipment are Air Canada's and so they can drill holes in the floor to run cables for the kiosks where ever they want. In T3 it is the GTAA/SITA that own the equipment, and the tenants lease it from them. New T1 will also be a common use building, although they have made provisions for airline self check in kiosks there...
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